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   Message 495 of 2,235   
   dan carnes to Omixochitl   
   Re: Ash, Dune, Matrix (was Re: Matrix Re   
   09 Nov 03 22:08:02   
   
   XPost: alt.movies   
   From: arctichare@cox.net   
      
   I will have to read the series.  Sounds very worthwhile.  For the record, I   
   do not think that there is anything wrong with the Brothers W paying homage   
   to a few of the genre's greats, while adding a few new twists of their own   
   for the next generation.  100% originality is hard to come by in a time when   
   ideas and information are so prolifically distributed so quickly.  Besides   
   for all the critics, I went to the movie for entertainment only.  If I were   
   looking for any answers to larger questions, I would start looking in other   
   places before the Cineplex.   
   "Omixochitl"  wrote in message   
   news:Xns942EB5E1AEC14idtoken@130.133.1.4...   
   > "dan carnes"  wrote in news:ijzrb.14080$iE.8707   
   > @okepread01:   
   >   
   > > I was amazed at how much this film reminded me of Frank Herbert's  Dune   
   > > Messiah.   
   > > Neo as Maudib   
   > > Trinity as Chani   
   > > Sight without seeing   
   > > The Humans as the Fremen   
   > > The Machines as the remainder of the Empire   
   > > And finally not knowing if Neo/Paul is really dead or just off in the   
   > > wilderness because were he to return he would not be a mere mortal but   
   > > a god.   
   >   
   > That's easy, it's the ending of a Matrix movie therefore he got in a   
   > coma.   
   >   
   > > Did anyone else pick up on this possible influence, or have I just been   
   > > reading too much of Herbert's work lately? :D   
   >   
   > I don't remember much of _Dune_ apart from boredom, and didn't read the   
   > sequels, but recently I reread Mary Gentle's _Ash_ (well, the 4-book US   
   > edition):   
   >   
   > - plenty of fight scenes   
   > - war between human soldiers and machinery with a grudge against everyone   
   > - machines getting some other people to do their bidding   
   > - lack of sunlight 24/7   
   > - electronic communications   
   > - minds hooked up directly to computers   
   > - uploaded personalities   
   > - one token bigshot with built-in anti-machinery capabilities at a time   
   > - religious allusions   
   > - sometimes a high-tech/low-life attitude   
   > - machines turning out to actually have a good point   
   > - human/machine attempt at truce/deal/whatever   
      
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