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   From: trminlxGARBAGE@bitstreamnet.com   
      
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    Sourcerer  wrote:   
      
   > On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, ghost wrote:   
   >   
   > > So...   
   > >   
   > > I'm trying to figure out why it sucks as badly as everyone says it does.   
   >   
   > Probably for similar reasons why you think a film sucks. I'm sure there   
   > are "why's" and critics and fans will be absorbed delineating them.   
      
   Don't get me wrong, it wasn't a great movie. But I didn't hate it nearly   
   as much as it seems nearly everyone else did. I certainly don't dislike   
   it as much as every critic out there. I think they forgot that 2 and 3   
   were filmed together as one movie and failed to view it as such.   
      
   > I actually liked the original Matrix up to the point when Morpheus   
   > appeared and his portentiously shallow utterances, which put it on a   
   > level with a 1970s Marvel Comic book for me. That kinda destroyed any   
   > "willing suspension of disbelief" on my part and I cannot recover it.   
   > So, I watch Mx3 for amusement, practicing my MST3K one-liners.   
      
   I've always assumed that Matrix was just a comic book in movie form,   
   especially since it did involve hammy one liners and silly explanations.   
   Going from the point of view that I'm watching a Marvel comic helps put   
   aside a lot of misgivings - I expect most of the characters to be two   
   dimensional, and morpheous is very four-color.   
      
   > So, I guess I think they suck because the dialogue/characters sound   
   > silly when they're supposed to be serious, and the inconguity makes me   
   > laugh.   
      
   I never took it seriously, maybe that's why I'm not so mad at it for not   
   delivering something serious.   
      
   > I like some films that are seriously flawed one way or another. Dark   
   > City, for example; not even Kiefer Sutherland's incomprehensibly hammy   
   > performance ruins it, imo. But not the Matrix Franchise. That went too   
   > far.   
      
   Dark City was an excellent movie and ranks very high on my list of Must   
   See movies. I didn't think Kiefer was any worse in that movie than the   
   other actors personally. But then I actually don't mind his acting.   
      
   > I have hopes for I, Robot. We'll see.   
      
   indeed, it will be worth checking out.   
      
   ghost   
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