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|    David Walker to ghost    |
|    Re: Why Isn't There a Cyberpunk Movement    |
|    14 Nov 03 02:24:08    |
      a173df9f       From: dwalker@cs.rochester.edu              On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, ghost wrote:              >       > I've often wondered when the companies will move factories back to the       > US in order to actually put money into the market they draw from so       > relentlessly. Eventually someone will have to realize they can't support       > an economy with everything outsourced and the only potential buyers or       > Retail Workers with minimum wage jobs who live four to a one bedroom       > apartment because they can't afford rent on their own. It's a scray       > prospect to think about. No industry have unlimited growth.       >              Part of the problem with the retail situation is that the overall skill       level in those jobs has dropped. Instead of the TV salesman knowing every       damn thing about the box he's about to sell you (and very likely having       some capacity to fix it), he knows slightly more about it than he does       about _L'Etranger_ in the original French, having never read Camus in his       life. I think this is largely what needs to be addressed in order for a       service economy to be sustainable.              Frankly I blame a large part of it on youth employment. I would guess       that close to 50% of the people in my high school graduating class held       jobs at the time (I'm a university student now). My understanding (albeit       secondhand) is that working students were extremely rare in, say, the late       1960s (this is anecdotal evidence, if someone has actual statistics I'd       love to see them). And of course, they usually work at Wal-Mart or at the       grocery store or wherever.              I guess my point is that if we're going to have a service economy, we need       for the jobs to be decent-paying positions requiring halfway committed       employees who show up on time and don't steal shit. Instead what we have       is a situation where retail workers are treated as interchangeable widgets       in the system of the stores.              Something like this would probably require a massive revision of labor       laws, maybe raise the legal employment age to 18 and increase the minimum       wage (this is here in the States, of course). Yeah, it would get pretty       restrictive, and very likely drive down sales of car stereo systems and       CDs, but I think in the long run it would be beneficial. Then you could       actually have kids focusing on their education instead of being told that       they should hold a job in addition to fulfilling their roles as students.              >       > Eventually I will have a server. Really.       > ~/~ Sometimes I forget to pray I'll make it through this fucking day ~/~       > www.accanthology.com ~/~ www.bitstreamnet.com       > take out the GARBAGE to email.       >              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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