From: Omixochitl2002@yahoo.com   
      
   alias  wrote in   
   news:br1103$26efge$2@ID-217386.news.uni-berlin.de:   
      
   > On 2003-12-08, Omixochitl  wrote:   
   >> alias  wrote in   
   >> news:slrnbt7oej.3a9.alias.remove@god-eater.no-ip.com:   
   >>   
   >>> i think alot of the reason cyberpunk is dead dead dead is there is   
   >>> no longer that huge well of anomie to tap into.. we have all (more   
   >>> or less) adapted to the tech that surrounds us.. PC's are no longer   
   >>> revolutionary thier just there.. ubiquitous and unalarming..   
   >>   
   >> Ah, but the tech that surrounds *us* need not be the tech that   
   >> surrounds a story's characters in order for the story to be CP.  :)   
   >   
   > sure... but without that sense of future shock also surrounding the   
   > *reader* it doesn't resonate in the same way.  i recall reading   
      
   No no no, I'm talking about stuff *with* that sense of future shock.   
      
   > Neuromancer for the 1st time (when i was about 12 or so.. and much too   
   > young to really understand it) and actually *struggling* with so me of   
   > the concepts it presented.   
   >   
   > had i been born in 1985 instead of 1975 i think i would have had a   
   > much easier time convieving the idea of the internet (which at the   
   > time i could not) .. how long has it been since someone needed such   
   > simple things explained to them?   
      
   So for a reader born in 1985 a movel would need tech more advanced than   
   _Neuromancer_ has in order to give him or her the same sense of future   
   shock that _Neuromancer_ gave you.  All I'm saying is that having such   
   tech doesn't mean that novel can't be cyberpunk.  ;)   
      
   > in '87 it was a stretch.. least for sprawl kid with no money ; )   
   >   
   >   
   >>If cyberpunk-story   
   >> tech is now just everyday life then where's my Primer*?   
   >>   
   >   
   > u didn't get the memo?  we decided to let the marketplace make these   
   > decisions.. apparently interest in microscopes is limited.  however u   
   > can read all the books u like on ur PDA or laptop.. same difference.   
      
   Except that smart paper is inherently cooler and my laptop has battery   
   issues.  ;)   
      
   > or close enough that i can recognize and understand Stephensons device   
   > without any difficulty.   
      
   Yeah.   
      
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