From: vagans@inanna.eanna.net   
      
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   Informatik  wrote:   
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   >vagans@inanna.eanna.net (Sourcerer) wrote in message news:...   
   >> "Cyberpunk" sf is simply "hard sf".   
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   >So many people looking for what they are - have found them self a   
   >label. To be a cyberpunk. To copy the anti-heroes and heroes's life.   
   >To catch up with technology. Untill now - where "Cyberpunk" is just   
   >that a genre in sci-fi - "hard sf".   
      
   Cyberpunk is, imo, a point of confluence of counter-cultures.   
   By counter-culture I mean an expression of antipathy to 'the   
   way things are' that is more than a personal or individual   
   distaste, because it is social or cultural in origin, not   
   personal or individual. It affects lots of people at the same   
   time, in much the same way. It's not, for example, that I   
   can't do or be as or what I wish, but that the society or   
   the cultural I live in does not have the mechanisms that would   
   permit me to do as or what I wish.   
      
   Because cp authors were part of or were inspired by counter-   
   cultural 'movements', cyberpunk is counter-cultural. Among   
   those movements, the most basic to cp is the sf genre and fandom.   
   The hippie -> yippie -> cracker/phreaker lineage makes up   
   most of the rest.   
      
   cp sf is a variety of 'hard sf'.   
      
   >For so many years - call it a whole generation - people who feel lost   
   >have turned to CyberPunk as someone else could turn to Christianity,   
   >Krshna or home-video.   
   >Fake technology viruses captured alot of men and some women in order   
   >to help the industry of it's reproduction (the viruses). When you're a   
   >lonesome and there are not alot of people you can contact with, and it   
   >is the control you might have and the understanding you can only meet   
   >in the Internet - you turn up to close all other senses - letting the   
   >gene mutate to another perception level.   
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   >So to call cyberpunk (hard sf) turned to be what christianity was - a   
   >good book story that involved alot of people in to Idolisation. Thank   
   >BIlly Idol - for his mark in history.   
      
   Once upon a time christianity was counter-cultural, don't forget.   
      
   >Thank Saurcerer for being here all the time and ceaseless enjoying the   
   >chats, while waving "Warning" signs and smiling friendly with his   
   >sharp tounge (and teeth).   
      
   Poly has made me a nicer person, though 8-)   
      
      
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