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   _Schwann_ to All   
   Re: Triviology (1/2)   
   05 Jan 04 00:41:05   
   
   XPost: alt.religion.kibology, alt.webtrance, alt.slack   
   From: schwann@noit!dontspamme!%webtrance.co.za#   
      
   In article <3FF8970E.11D89BB0@comcast.net>, kali.magdalene@comcast.net   
   says...   
   > _Schwann_ wrote:   
   > >   
   > > It's understandable that you can't reply to my longer post in any way.   
   > > You evidence a negative impression of yourself in the kibology pecking   
   > > order, so, for me, it's OK for you to have a lesser mind than Kaevin,   
   > > who is a good representation of a negative social construct.   
   >   
   > What longer post?   
      
   viz:   
      
    kali.magdalene@comcast.net   
   says...   
      
   > Many ARK posters are Canuckistanian and Austrian. I bet some even live   
   > in ENGLAND, horror of horrors. Do you apply the concept of "American   
   > arrogance" to them as well?   
   >   
      
   yes..   
      
   > > why do I* post here? simple really, it's network osmosis....   
   >   
   > It may be your unrequited love for Kevin's.   
   >   
      
   I've been posting here a long time before you or Kaevin 'appeared', so,   
   for the sake of future cultural historians, let me clear some things   
   up...   
      
   In 1997 I was invited to the USA by Prof C.Scott Littleton of Occidental   
   College in Pasadena to give a talk on SYNTHETIC MYSTICISM, MEMES AND   
   CULTURAL EVOLUTION, EXPANDED CONSCIOUSNESS AND NETWORKING, 100TH MONKEY   
   THEORY and MYTHS AND LEGENDS OF THE INTERNET.   
      
   At that time I was already well disliked by Kibo and crew, possibly due   
   to the fact that I understood them better than they understood me. In   
   fact, and at the time, Kibo was one of my 'models' for the role of   
   'netgod', though he seems a bit the worse for wear these days...   
      
   let me rather quote from my Oxy lecture notes, but isn't it weird that   
   the word 'triviality' spawns in the very first sentence?   
   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~   
   Occidental Lecture by Schwann, October 1997 Pasadena   
      
   The Internet group mind races towards Truth in equal proportion to its   
   desire for Triviality. I suppose this can be explained by the duality of   
   man. Usenet has spawned many futuristic virtual Tribes, complete with   
   Myths and Legends, which occupy this frontier territory. This is clearly   
   a classic case of 'virtual-urban-folklore-in-the-making' for future   
   generations of cultural scientist to debate over. Usenet is much more   
   than 15,000+ newsgroups and a clamour of psychobabble, for behind this   
   'firewall' of Bulletin Boards lurks knowledge that protects and   
   ignorance which endangers. Reading Usenet can be difficult because   
   realities like the UFO cover-up and a big-bang-common-human-experience   
   can sometimes make it difficult to maintain a properly balanced   
   perspective, but hey, if we break it all down we'll see that, besides   
   being a place to post diatribes on Atlantean Egyptology, Paleofeminist   
   Manifestos, Vegetarian Theology, and so forth, Usenet is also a forum   
   for meaningful discussion between totally different types of people.   
   In order to understand the mythical dynamics of social interaction on   
   Usenet perhaps we could classify the 'emotive' data flow, which exists   
   on Usenet in a similar way to how Jung's 'collective unconscious' theory   
   views the 'human experience'. Jung, among others, suggests that there   
   are mythic forms, or "archetypes" implicit in human behavioural   
   patterns. Let me assure you that there's plenty of that kind of   
   interactivity on alt.society.neutopia, alt.messianic and other   
   newsgroups on the Internet where the word 'myth' is usually used to   
   denote stories involving gods, supernatural beings, or aliens, while the   
   word 'legend' likely refers to chronicles detailing the actions of real   
   humans - and therefore, possibly true.   
      
   Webculture is evolving by providing the Usenet community with essential   
   cool and by creating Neo-classical Urban Folklore around itself. One of   
   these uhm, conceits? is called - 'The NetGod'. Now NetGods, like real   
   people, are a mixed breed. Some may be just icons of insanity, while   
   others have seriously shaken and stirred the 'cyber-flock', by   
   committing some notable 'outrage' in real life or cyberspace. In the   
   usual binary fashion the damage can range from flagrant virtual abuse to   
   child pornography. Some NetGods can be found in the underworld beneath   
   Usenet hiding at the bottom of the TCP-IP protocol where the void of the   
   sacred kill-file is located, while others, like the great 'Kibo',   
   (alt.religion.kibology), may have their own newsgroups. More on him just   
   now.   
      
   A look into this murky world of lurking horror may give you a few   
   answers to the smoky future of our culture, but first you'll have to   
   subscribe to newsgroups like 'alt.consciousness.4th-way',   
   'sci.archaeology', 'soc.religion.gnosis' and 'alt.memetics'. Then, after   
   reading mystical texts at midnight, and mailing irrelevant questions to   
   total strangers, you'll receive replies ranging from; being totally   
   ignored, to perfectly normal conversation, to ultimately getting   
   mailbombed amidst shrieks of psychotronic rage. Yes, the I-Net is an   
   alive, yet 'imperfect vision' of digitised humanity and its hectic out   
   there, but in order to absorb some 'cyber-mysticism' you'll have to do   
   more than just lurk, and by the time you understand the true meaning of   
   the word 'kill-file' you'll already have crossed the virtual Styx and   
   entered the domain of netgods like Church of the Subgenius, Dr. John   
   Grubor, who wants to control the world from Pittsburgh by legalising   
   marijuana. Jack Sarfatti, the internets most hyped quantum physicist and   
   of course, Doctress Neutopia, High Priestess of Neutopia, a gaian   
   internet religion of Lovolution. neu topia can also mean "new top", a   
   new ruling order. However "neu" in some languages sounds close to no. so   
   neutopia could also mean not nowhere  Libby Hubbard is a true prophetess   
   of the I-net. We all know what words like "massagasm" or "lovolution"   
   mean even if they have no meaning. I've met the Doctress, who is well   
   known legend of following her heart around in realtime  and then posting   
   the results to alt.society.neutopia. This could include her sexual   
   antics from the night before, or erotic religious poetry. Her most   
   infamous post being 'suck mary', something to do with her rejection of   
   religion as we know it. Libby is considered a force, a being of mystery.   
   Some consider her a joke, or an attempt be silicon valley to upload a   
   meta-consciousness onto the net. A rogue AI program run by UTEXAS. There   
   have even been recent rumors that she is a being from outer space.--   
   3.8-- However, having met her personally I can assure you she's real -   
   and very intense. ::The Gaia Messiah:: She is considered to be the   
   carrier of a powerful meme complex, but is thought by many to be unaware   
   of many aspects of reality. Libby Hubbard is a prophetess in evolution.   
   She started with a powerful imperfect vision of both the world and   
   herself and then made the cybernetic jump. She's visited Bill Clinton at   
   White House, gone to Turkey to the global womans conference. (She fell   
   in love and came back months after she was supposed to with a broken   
   heart).   
      
      
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