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   Message 238 of 1,115   
   MasterKarsten to Cyberdroid   
   Re: A Constitution for the Free Internet   
   12 Oct 25 12:20:03   
   
   From: soulkarsten@gmail.com   
      
   TheSun, 12 Oct 2025 10:09:22 +0200, Cyberdroid wrote:   
      
   > Am 12.10.25 um 02:31 schrieb novanon:   
   >> I think we should write a form of constitution that should govern the   
   >> Internet. If we can design a few basic rules and common liberties that   
   >> should be available to everyone, we can start lobbying for those   
   >> liberties around the world.   
   >>   
   >> I'll start with an easy one:   
   >>   
   >>> A well regulated VPN Service, being necessary for the security of a   
   >>> free   
   >> Internet, the right of the people to anonymize and encrypt their   
   >> traffic, shall not be infringed.   
   >   
   > I think this is nonsense, to be frank. We are not "world citizens",   
   > "netizens" or whatever. We are bound to the (cultural) rules and   
   > regulations of the respective countries we live in. If you live in a   
   > country that doesn't even have the concept of freedom of speech or   
   > privacy to begin with, your demands will fall on deaf ears and you'd   
   > have to approach this thing from a more fundamental level of cultural   
   > change. The majority of people in the world doesn't live in countries   
   > with freedom of speech, freedom of expression or a right to privacy.   
   > Think about China, the islamic world or most parts of Africa. We are   
   > basically talking about implementing something that only exists in   
   > western countries.   
   >   
   > And when it comes to the western world: We already know what we need and   
   > what to lobby for, based on our respective cultural values   
   > (enlightenment). We don't need some arbitrary document for that: Freedom   
   > of speech, the right to privacy, private correspondence and subsequently   
   > encryption.   
      
   As long an infrastructure exists, and it's resistant to takedowns, there   
   will be spaces of uncontrolled freedoom, one way or another   
      
      
      
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