From: dreamvicinity@protonmail.com   
      
   MasterKarsten writes:   
      
   > TheSun, 12 Oct 2025 10:09:22 +0200, Cyberdroid wrote:   
   >   
   >> Am 12.10.25 um 02:31 schrieb novanon:   
   >>> I think we should write a form of constitution that should govern the   
   >>> Internet. If we can design a few basic rules and common liberties that   
   >>> should be available to everyone, we can start lobbying for those   
   >>> liberties around the world.   
   >>>   
   >>> I'll start with an easy one:   
   >>>   
   >>>> A well regulated VPN Service, being necessary for the security of a   
   >>>> free   
   >>> Internet, the right of the people to anonymize and encrypt their   
   >>> traffic, shall not be infringed.   
   >>   
   >> I think this is nonsense, to be frank. We are not "world citizens",   
   >> "netizens" or whatever. We are bound to the (cultural) rules and   
   >> regulations of the respective countries we live in. If you live in a   
   >> country that doesn't even have the concept of freedom of speech or   
   >> privacy to begin with, your demands will fall on deaf ears and you'd   
   >> have to approach this thing from a more fundamental level of cultural   
   >> change. The majority of people in the world doesn't live in countries   
   >> with freedom of speech, freedom of expression or a right to privacy.   
   >> Think about China, the islamic world or most parts of Africa. We are   
   >> basically talking about implementing something that only exists in   
   >> western countries.   
   >>   
   >> And when it comes to the western world: We already know what we need and   
   >> what to lobby for, based on our respective cultural values   
   >> (enlightenment). We don't need some arbitrary document for that: Freedom   
   >> of speech, the right to privacy, private correspondence and subsequently   
   >> encryption.   
   >   
   > As long an infrastructure exists, and it's resistant to takedowns, there   
   > will be spaces of uncontrolled freedoom, one way or another   
      
   Protocols > platforms. Always has been. Layer 7 was meant for the   
   client, not for the API call.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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