From: fullmesh@tutanota.com   
      
   rudis wrote:   
   >   
   > comfyanon  posted:   
   >   
   >> I'm very interesting in means of communication that are grass roots, not   
   >> controlled by any authority, self-hosted, and free. I've been aware of   
   >> lora for a long time now, but at the time it was work-related inquiry.   
   >> Meshtastic is interesting because it seems to be the start of a standard   
   >> protocol for sending messages via lora.  Has anyone messed with it?   
   >> Unfortunately for me I live in the woods, so I wouldnt have others to talk   
   >> to, so I'm less inclined to buy it on a whim.  I'd love to hear your   
   >> thoughts on the technology, especially if you've got first hand   
   >> experience.  What are the pros/cons?  Do people chat on it? What do you   
   >> use it for?   
   >>   
   >> /comfy/   
   > Same as you, it looks fantastic. I've looked at it priced out units and his   
   to connect to a laptop not just am android. BUT where I am there is zero   
   interest, which is strange living in a huge international city.   
   >   
   > I would be using it for the sake of it and then putting it on a shelf.   
   Internet relays kind of defeat the purpose, so whilst I could potentially link   
   up to users via the net, if that goes down?   
   >   
   > I'm not sure if you could use standard ham/radio relays:   
   >   
   > Lora>>>radio>>>lora   
   >   
      
   LORAWAN is acceptable for very static setups but besides text it is   
   rather anemic from my testing. Lack of multicast support means that   
   dynamic adhoc protocols simply do not work. 802.11ah using BATMAN works   
   quite well, I used a handful of 900Mhz Ubiquti AirMAX boxes but they are   
   quite expensive now second hand when I last looked, but they supported   
   live video, voice, text, you name it. I'm sure you could roll your own   
   with some banana pi's and 900Mhz TDM radio boards with little effort if   
   you find an "as easy as seen on TV" kit. Internet ROIP gateways serve   
   their purpose. For this https://www.pistar.uk/downloads/ is quite good.   
      
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