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   Colin Macleod to All   
   Re: Post-Tropes: Cyberpunk NOW?   
   19 Oct 25 11:50:14   
   
   From: user7@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   n0_m0d3m  posted:   
   > >   
   > That's where you might be wrong; it's the understanding of how it   
   > "works" that's fading; debugging punched cards required a tactile   
   > understanding of code that is hard to replicate in 2025.   
      
   I don't know about "tactile understanding" but it certainly required   
   more patience.  I wrote my first programs at school, but no school had   
   their own computer then.  We had to write the program out by hand on   
   a paper form that matched the layout of 80-column punched cards; these   
   forms were then sent to the local college where a secretary would type   
   them into the card-punch machine; a computer operator would feed the   
   cards into the college computer and collect the printout produced by   
   compiling and running the code; the printout would then be sent back   
   to the school and returned to us about a week after we wrote the code.   
   You might then discover that your code failed to compile because you   
   missed out a semi-colon, and fixing the mistake and trying again would   
   take another week.  Later I got access to the local university computer,   
   where you could punch the cards yourself and hand them in to the   
   operators, so *if* everything was working you might be able to get two   
   runs in a day, a great improvement!  Working in that sort of environment   
   did make you *very* careful about details of syntax etc.   
      
   Having written that down now I'm very much reminded of this:   
      
   "Tell that to the young people today and they won't believe you" -   
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKHFZBUTA4k   
      
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