From: user8155@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   Slimes  posted:   
      
   > Water Fountain wrote:   
   > > Forgive for my lack of understanding of the protocol, since I did not   
   > > study it much, but isn't the biggest hurdle right now Peering?   
   > >   
   > > If, hypothetically, one of us went through all the trouble of hosting   
   > > and properly securing a usenet group, the issue would still be to give   
   > > others access and propagating the group, which is only possible through   
   > > commercial and private entities.   
   > > Correct?   
   > >   
   > You can host an NNTP server, but good luck understanding it. It's BIND   
   > level of stupidity.  The official source is on the same site too...   
   >   
   > No other servers exist. (as programs). None. I've checked; And no, the   
   > proxy one isn't a server.   
   >   
   > On top of that, you have to KNOW someone to peer. TRUSTED (if you know   
   > what that means)   
   >   
   > This is why I push things like Hotline etc. No one is in charge.   
   >   
   > But this is the next best thing.   
   >   
   > There is a good reason why the 88x31 buttons on my site have words...   
   >   
   > Understand all of it, and know how to defeat the 'new way'.   
   >   
   > NO SSL. NO TLS. INDEXES! etc. etc.   
   >   
   > Security theatre is just that, theatre. When one company owns most of   
   > every host, the keys to the kingdom are already theirs. (who is EIG?)   
   >   
   > If India decides to fuck us, were fucked. That's the lesson here.   
   >   
   > Oh, AWS went down again... oops. 30%+ of internet hosts...one place--and   
   >   its all run by India.  How long til India decides to rebel?   
   >   
   > Think...uh, differntly?   
      
   Well, since we are talking about it, a fusion of freenet and gemini would   
   Probably be the best way out... Diffused network Self hosting lightweight   
   Essential   
      
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