XPost: rec.aviation.piloting, rec.travel.air
From: christophercampbell@hotmail.com
On 2007-05-06 05:11:53 -0700, "Dudley Henriques" said:
>
> "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
> news:Xns99283707081C9nunyfjukkinbidness@207.14.116.130...
>> "Dudley Henriques" wrote in
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>>>
>>> "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
>>> news:Xns9928FDE82AC5nunyfjukkinbidness@207.14.116.130...
>>>> "Dudley Henriques" wrote in
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>>>>>
>>>>> wrote in message
>>>>> news:1178399818.924719.9430@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> On May 5, 5:10 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
>>>>>>> Aircraft normally wait for thunderstorms to pass before taking
>>>>>>> off. No aircraft is safe in a thunderstorm.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So most likely the Kenya Airways flight didn't follow procedure or
>>>>>> receive clearance?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hard to say not knowing the exact situation, but in my opinion, only
>>>>> a pilot with a death wish accepts a takeoff clearance in the middle
>>>>> of a thunderstorm.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't neceesarily follow that he took off in the middle of a
>>>> CB...
>>>
>>> I agree. To do that would have been against all my sense of logic
>>> anyway. Stranger things have happened, and pilots do indeed from time
>>> to time push weather for one reason or another but I'd hate to second
>>> guess this poor guy at this point. It's been my experience that what
>>> appears almost certain immediately after these things seldom carries
>>> through the investigation.
>>
>> Precisely. I've flown in that part of the world quite a lot and the CBs
>> have to be seen to be believed. I've been at 310 and had the tops
>> further away than the bottoms as often as not. The size of them is also
>> astonishing and seeing into a large, tight group of cells is next to
>> impossible, even with the best radar. It's hard work but it has to be
>> done or you're on the ground for the best part of six months there.
>>
>> Bertie
>
> Reminds me of an old story I heard once that was going around UAL for
> awhile;
>
>> A major airline hired a new first officer right out of post graduate school
> and stuck him in the right seat of a 737 with a crusty old Captain who came
> up through the ranks after dropping out of high school.
> On their first flight together, the Captain told the first officer to just
> sit back and watch and do absolutely nothing.
> The Captain took off, climbed to FL 360 as filed and leveled off. He set the
> autopilot and inertial nav for waypoints and told the first officer that he
> was going to take a nap. The first officer was to touch nothing.......do
> nothing! Under NO circumstances, was he to disturb the Captain.
> The Captain went to sleep.
> The first officer sat there watching the panel. After a while he noticed on
> the weather radar a HUGE storm ahead directly in the path of the airplane.
> He watched with interest and gathering alarm as the storm got closer and
> closer.
> At about twenty miles, the storm looked absolutely frightening; the biggest
> thing he had ever seen in his life. He just stared at it on the screen while
> he pondered the Captain's request not to be disturbed for any reason.
> Finally, fearing that if a course correction wasn't made immediately, the
> storm would tear the airplane apart, he decided he couldn't wait any longer
> to wake the Captain.
> "Captain.......Captain" he said, "wake up sir...look at this!! It's my
> sincere recommendation sir, that we circumnavigate that storm
> immediately!!!!!!!!!!!"
> The Captain awoke in a start and took one look at the radar screen;
> "Circumnavigate my ass!!!!!!. We're goin AROUND that son-of-a-bitch!!!!!"
>
> Dudley Henriques
I am certain that I have flown with that guy.
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World Famous Flight Instructor
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