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   From: dhenriques@rcn.com   
      
   "C J Campbell"  wrote in message   
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   > On 2007-05-06 05:11:53 -0700, "Dudley Henriques"    
   > said:   
   >   
   >>   
   >> "Bertie the Bunyip"  wrote in message   
   >> news:Xns99283707081C9nunyfjukkinbidness@207.14.116.130...   
   >>> "Dudley Henriques"  wrote in   
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   >>>> "Bertie the Bunyip"  wrote in message   
   >>>> news:Xns9928FDE82AC5nunyfjukkinbidness@207.14.116.130...   
   >>>>> "Dudley Henriques"  wrote in   
   >>>>> news:BsGdnWSSXoUdi6DbnZ2dnUVZ_o6gnZ2d@rcn.net:   
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   >>>>>>  wrote in message   
   >>>>>> news:1178399818.924719.9430@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...   
   >>>>>>> On May 5, 5:10 pm, Mxsmanic  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> Aircraft normally wait for thunderstorms to pass before taking   
   >>>>>>>> off. No aircraft is safe in a thunderstorm.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> So most likely the Kenya Airways flight didn't follow procedure or   
   >>>>>>> receive clearance?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Hard to say not knowing the exact situation, but in my opinion, only   
   >>>>>> a pilot with a death wish accepts a takeoff clearance in the middle   
   >>>>>> of a thunderstorm.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It doesn't neceesarily follow that he took off in the middle of a   
   >>>>> CB...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I agree. To do that would have been against all my sense of logic   
   >>>> anyway. Stranger things have happened, and pilots do indeed from time   
   >>>> to time push weather for one reason or another but I'd hate to second   
   >>>> guess this poor guy at this point. It's been my experience that what   
   >>>> appears almost certain immediately after these things seldom carries   
   >>>> through the investigation.   
   >>>   
   >>> Precisely. I've flown in that part of the world quite a lot and the CBs   
   >>> have to be seen to be believed. I've been at 310 and had the tops   
   >>> further away than the bottoms as often as not. The size of them is also   
   >>> astonishing and seeing into a large, tight group of cells is next to   
   >>> impossible, even with the best radar. It's hard work but it has to be   
   >>> done or you're on the ground for the best part of six months there.   
   >>>   
   >>> Bertie   
   >>   
   >> Reminds me of an old story I heard once that was going around UAL for   
   >> awhile;   
   >>   
   >>> A major airline hired a new first officer right out of post graduate   
   >>> school   
   >> and stuck him in the right seat of a 737 with a crusty old Captain who   
   >> came   
   >> up through the ranks after dropping out of high school.   
   >> On  their first flight together, the Captain told the first officer to   
   >> just   
   >> sit back and watch and do absolutely nothing.   
   >> The Captain took off, climbed to FL 360 as filed and leveled off. He set   
   >> the   
   >> autopilot and inertial nav for waypoints and told the first officer that   
   >> he   
   >> was going to take a nap. The first officer was to touch nothing.......do   
   >> nothing! Under NO circumstances, was he to disturb the Captain.   
   >> The Captain went to sleep.   
   >> The first officer sat there watching the panel. After a while he noticed   
   >> on   
   >> the weather radar a HUGE storm ahead directly in the path of the   
   >> airplane.   
   >> He watched with interest and gathering alarm as the storm got closer and   
   >> closer.   
   >> At about twenty miles, the storm looked absolutely frightening; the   
   >> biggest   
   >> thing he had ever seen in his life. He just stared at it on the screen   
   >> while   
   >> he pondered the Captain's request not to be disturbed for any reason.   
   >> Finally, fearing that if a course correction wasn't made immediately, the   
   >> storm would tear the airplane apart, he decided he couldn't wait any   
   >> longer   
   >> to wake the Captain.   
   >> "Captain.......Captain" he said, "wake up sir...look at this!! It's my   
   >> sincere recommendation sir, that we circumnavigate that storm   
   >> immediately!!!!!!!!!!!"   
   >> The Captain awoke in a start and took one look at the radar screen;   
   >> "Circumnavigate my ass!!!!!!. We're goin AROUND that son-of-a-bitch!!!!!"   
   >>   
   >> Dudley Henriques   
   >   
   > I am certain that I have flown with that guy.   
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