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   Message 29,396 of 31,131   
   John Mazor to Eeyore   
   Re: Kenya Airways 737 Accident   
   03 Sep 07 18:27:15   
   
   From: mazorj@verizon.net   
      
   "Eeyore"  wrote in   
   message news:46DBBD70.43D19DD9@hotmail.com...   
   >   
   > John Mazor wrote:   
   >   
   >> "Eeyore"  wrote   
   >> > John Mazor wrote:   
   >> >> "NoneYa"  wrote   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> > And you wonder why our Air Traffic Control system   
   >> >> > here   
   >> >> > in America is slowly falling into chaos and our test   
   >> >> > scores are falling in America??   
   >> >>   
   >> >> I dunno about test scores but the state of our ATC   
   >> >> system   
   >> >> has nothing to do with your racist rants here.   
   >> >   
   >> > Isn't it the case though that 'positive action' or   
   >> > whatever it's called allows coloured ppl of lower   
   >> > ability than competing white candidates to be offered   
   >> > employment in order to maintain racially based 'quotas'   
   >> > ?   
   >> >   
   >> > Graham   
   >>   
   >> We all have seen examples of the marginally competent   
   >> individual who probably owes his/her job to some form of   
   >> quota hiring, although people who obsess on that almost   
   >> always ignore the fact that not everyone who gets hired   
   >> that   
   >> way is a sub-par performer.   
   >   
   > I wish !   
      
   They're *all* subpar, Graham?  I thought that only happened   
   in the executive suites, where hiring and promotions are   
   done by inbreeding and the good old boy network.   
      
   >> They also overlook all the incompetent people of their   
   >> own race who owe their   
   >> position to favoritism, sycophancy, dumb luck, and the   
   >> Peter Principle.  They far   
   >> outnumber the former in most workplaces.   
   >   
   > I personally see a situation where really quite   
   > incompetent management has   
   > virtually become the norm today. The aspects you mention   
   > have all played their   
   > part in this.   
      
   How much of a role?  It's not an either/or condition, it's   
   "to what degree?"   
      
   As you know from my postings against our loons, I am   
   reluctant to attribute to outside forces whatever can be   
   attributed to the usual human faults of stupidity, greed,   
   and laziness.  How much of what you cite here can you   
   honestly say is not the result of that triad?   
      
   >> However, as I said, to attribute FAA's failures in   
   >> providing   
   >> adequate air traffic services to that effect is like   
   >> trying   
   >> to blame our quagmire in Iraq on the existence of black   
   >> officers in the military.  If our military were lilly   
   >> white,   
   >> nothing would be different.  The causes and problems of   
   >> the   
   >> Iraq debacle have nothing to do with race.  In fact, with   
   >> the exception of one woman of color now in the cabinet,   
   >> the   
   >> whole debacle was engineered by white males in the   
   >> highest   
   >> levels of power.   
   >>   
   >> The causes of FAA's failures have been well documented   
   >> and   
   >> discussed in the media and within the industry.  Nowhere   
   >> is   
   >> race mentioned as factor.   
   >   
   > I honestly can't comment in detail but I've noticed that   
   > we have creeping   
   > 'stupiditis' in the UK too and it seems to infect   
   > governmental departments more   
   > than civilian business entitities. Usual excuses seem to   
   > be related to claims   
   > of  'human rights' and such wishy washy stuff.   
   >   
   > Oh for people appointed purely on their ability or skill   
   > again !   
      
   As Yogi Berra might have said, nostalgia ain't what it used   
   to be.  We've always had stupidity, greed, and laziness in   
   the workplace.  Going back to Socrates (and probably back to   
   Og the caveman), the current generations or social   
   conditions have been perpetually going to hell in a   
   handbasket.   
      
   I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm just surprised that   
   you say that you're totally surrounded by it.  It must be   
   hell to work your job.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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