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   "john bates"  wrote in   
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   > "Bertie the Bunyip"  wrote in message   
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   >>> "Bertie the Bunyip"  wrote in message   
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   >>>> "john bates"  wrote in   
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   >>>>> Please could an expert here tell me. If with a total loss   
   >>>>> of electric power would all control of a/c be the result?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> If (as a few ground observers have stated) the high nose   
   >>>>> attitude and apparent stall from 100/200 foot is true and   
   >>>>> the pilot had had control would he not have pushed the   
   >>>>> stick forward to increase the glide distance/ Or choose to   
   >>>>> pancake onto the grass and avoid all the resultant sparks?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> He probably had the flight controls operating. He would have had no   
   >>>> surplus   
   >>>> speed at that point anyway Pointing the nose down would not   
   >>>> increase the glide, they would not have made the airport perimiter   
   >>>> had he done that. They made it. They were lucky. End of story.   
   >>>>   
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   >>>> Bertie   
   >>> ***Thank you, without total electrics e,g, no power for servos   
   >>> is there some form of mechanical links to control surfaces?   
   >>   
   >> No, no mechanical link, but the controls are hydraulic and they would   
   >> have been powered. The computers have dedicated generators and   
   >> batteries, so they should have been OK, but the accident is so weird   
   >> anyway, who knows?   
   >>   
   >> You'll have to wait for the report. I wouldn't think anyone knows   
   >> what happened yet.   
   >   
   > *** I agree, weird is a good discription of it. There are so many what   
   > if's that can be used, like what if the fault had happened just a   
   > second or two sooner - likely cut a path through the highway - a   
   > minute earlier god knows where it would have finished up. Then if the   
   > water logged small piece of grass had been concrete. One could go on.   
      
      
   Yes, very true. They were lucky beyond belief.   
      
   BTW, the rate of descent on touchdonw must have been ferocious to do   
   that to the gear. Probably well in excess of 2,000 FPM.   
   They wouldn't have had a lot of choice about that at that juncture. If   
   they hd landed short of that highway there would almost certainly have   
   been a lot of fatalities. If. lke you suggested, it had been a minute   
   earlier, Slough would look very different today.   
      
      
   Bertie   
      
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