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   D Ramapriya wrote in   
   news:d6cd3158-6cb0-4ffd-927c-59ca49abda9f@m34g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:   
      
   > On Jan 30, 3:48 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:   
   >> D Ramapriya wrote   
   >> innews:2690baef-0857-4600-a0c5-4   
   > 26a1d134099@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:   
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   >> > On Jan 30, 2:33 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:   
   >> >> D Ramapriya wrote   
   >> >> innews:24252c28-895a-44da-bd25-   
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   >> 662f25fa3...@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.co   
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   >> >> m:   
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   >> >> > On Jan 30, 2:08 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:   
   >> >> >> D Ramapriya wrote in   
   >> >> >> news:2ff47125-cffd-4909-b028-   
   >> >> >> 93288fe9a...@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:   
   >>   
   >> >> >> > On Jan 30, 8:41 am, WingFlaps wrote:   
   >> >> >> >> On Jan 30, 2:03 pm, girish....@gmail.com wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> > Out of curiosity I was wondering which civilian passenger   
   >> >> >> >> > airplanes have the highest service ceilings? Wikipedia   
   >> >> >> >> > indicates that some business jets have ceilings greater   
   >> >> >> >> > than 53000 ft or so while the 747 has only 43000 ft. Also   
   >> >> >> >> > why do large aircraft fly much lower than their service   
   >> >> >> >> > ceilings? Usually I never see a large jet go beyond 37000   
   >> >> >> >> > or so even on very long haul flights. I assume they would   
   >> >> >> >> > be even more efficient if they flew close to service   
   >> >> >> >> > ceilings on long haul flights.   
   >>   
   >> >> >> >> Could be due to weight? When you fly across the Pacific the   
   >> >> >> >> plane can only get higher as fuel is burned.   
   >>   
   >> >> >> > Get higher? I thought that's what the continual small   
   >> >> >> > adjustments effected by the trim wheels do to preclude,   
   >> >> >> > especially with the AutoPilot engaged?   
   >>   
   >> >> >> Huh?   
   >>   
   >> >> >> Bertie   
   >>   
   >> >> > I meant to say that the AP will ensure that you keep flying at   
   >> >> > the programmed altitude (through trim and throttle changes)   
   >> >> > instead of letting the plane go higher with diminishing weight.   
   >> >> > Have I missed something?   
   >>   
   >> >> We get cleared to an altitude and have to hold that altitude to   
   >> >> avoid running into other airplanes. The autopilot does not just go   
   >> >> where it pleases.   
   >>   
   >> > My point exactly,   
   >>   
   >> No, it wasn't. you said that the AP will ensure that you keep flying   
   >> at the programmed altitude throught trim and throttle changes.   
   >> It won't.   
   >   
   >   
   > So the AP's FD Altitude Controls do what?   
      
      
   The FD and the autopilot are two different things.   
      
      
   Bertie   
      
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