XPost: sci.military.naval, sci.space.shuttle, alt.conspiracy   
   XPost: sci.astro.amateur   
   From: rogerconroy.nospam@hotmail.com   
      
   "Richard Casady"  wrote in message   
   news:48d4aa9d.207508609@news.east.earthlink.net...   
   > On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:17:37 +0200, "Roger Conroy"   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >>   
   >>"Richard Casady"  wrote in message   
   >>news:48cd90c4.200892515@news.east.earthlink.net...   
   >>> On 23 Jun 2003 16:43:39 -0700, elisabeth00eder@hotmail.com (Elisabeth   
   >>> Eder) wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>The antenna is currently being configured to transmit BILLIONS of   
   >>>>watts [gigawatts] of microwave radio frequency energy   
   >>>   
   >>> Where are they getting the 13 000 000 HP to turn the generators?25 or   
   >>> so really big power plants? I don't think so?   
   >>   
   >>Richard   
   >>You forgot to factor in antenna gain.   
   >>The final RF stage output power is 3600kW; the antenna array gain is 31dB   
   >>which results in an ERP of 3981MW.   
   >   
   > The word was transmitt. The transmission is from the power source to   
   > the atmosphere. Nothing was said about beam density, it was   
   > transmitter output. Before the antenna, not after. No array is going   
   > to manufacture power from nothing. A watt is a unit of power, not   
   > intensity.ERP is pure fiction when discussing transmitter power which   
   > is always less than the ammount of electricity used. An antenna will   
   > not radiate more power than leaves the transmitter.   
   >   
   > BTW, it all ends up in the ionesphere whether the area thereof is   
   > large or small. You are attempting to overstate the ammount by a   
   > factor of 1000. Not one word was said about intensity, it, it was raw   
   > power. The kind that shows up on the electric bill.   
   >   
   > Casady   
      
   Hi Richard   
      
   I think the problem actuaaly is that whoever wrote:   
   ">>>>The antenna is currently being configured to transmit BILLIONS of   
   >>>>watts [gigawatts] of microwave radio frequency energy"   
   is quite clueless. Not knowing that there is a fundamental difference   
   between microwave and HF is pretty convincing evidence of profound ignorance   
   of the subject.   
      
   Anyway the fact remains that the maximum input power (to the antennas) is   
   3600kW.   
      
   From the sources I have seen it is not clear whether the antenna gain is   
   31dBb or dBi. Do you perhaps know which it is?   
   Also do you know if the shuttle orbital altitude is above or below the F   
   layers?   
      
   Roger   
      
   P.S. Try convincing a ham who regularly does moonbounce with less than 50W   
   of antenna input power that antenna gain is "pure fiction". LOL!   
      
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