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   From: nospam@nospam.com   
      
   Bertie the Bunyip wrote:   
   > Flydive  wrote in news:4976104b_6@news.bluewin.ch:   
   >   
   >> the.sargon@gmail.com wrote:   
   >>> On Jan 20, 10:11 am, Flydive  wrote:   
   >>>> the.sar...@gmail.com wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Low priority compared to flying the plane, deadstick, in a   
   > congested   
   >>>>> urban environment.   
   >>>>> Or would you rather he spend time looking for a button on the   
   > panel?   
   >>>> Well it takes 3 seconds to flip the switch, you should know where is   
   >>>> located.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> one pilot is flying the aircraft, the other one is assisting and   
   > going   
   >>>> through the checklist.   
   >>> Yep.   
   >>>   
   >>> Where on the checklist is the instruction to flip this switch?   
   >>>   
   >>> One may assume that since it was not flipped it was not at the top of   
   >>> the list and thus was of a lower priority.  Flying the airplane and   
   >>> only those steps necessary to (1) avoid obstacles while (2) setting   
   > up   
   >>> for landing are of high(est) priority.   
   >> The ditch switch is at the top of the ditching checklist and usually   
   > is   
   >> a memory item, if you are going to ditch I would say is a priority   
   > item.   
   >   
   >   
   > Only if you have time. Ditchig checklists don't have any memory items at   
   > all, and in fact Bus checklists, with most airlines, have very few   
   > memory drills. Lkikely the only memory checks are the engine fire drill   
   > and a pressurisations blowout, and those would have only the initial   
   > itiems on them.   
   >   
      
   Well, maybe the Airbus checklist doesn't have memory items, mine does,   
   the ditch switch is one of them. Other aircraft probably do too   
      
      
   >> Airliners have 2 pilots and usually only one of them is handling the   
   >> controls, the other one takes care of the emergency and assists the   
   >> flying pilot. You say setting up for landing, well if you are   
   > "landing"   
   >   
   > No, you tell him to do what you need him to do in the circumstance. In   
   > this case, the non handler was probably try to relight and telling the   
   > cabin and ATC waht was happening.   
      
   They just had multiple bird strikes, with most probably catastrophic   
   engine failure, I don't think you are going to try a relight in that   
   situation. I believe they did not communicate much with ATC, and that   
   task can be done by the flying pilot, no much overload to push the PTT   
   and say "we are going into the Hudson" as it seems they said. What part   
   of assisting does not agree with "you tell him to do what you need him   
   to do in the circumstance"?   
      
   >   
   >> in water the water, prepare the aircraft for ditching is part of it, a   
   >> priority.   
   >>   
   > Nope, not in this case. if they didn;t fly the airplane, the holes in   
   > the bottom of the airplane would have been the least of their problems,   
   > since they would have made significantly larger holes.   
   >   
      
   > Bertie   
      
   One of them was handling the aircraft and did a great job, the assisting   
   pilot was assisting and following the checklist, you just have to pick   
   the correct one.   
      
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