XPost: rec.aviation.piloting   
   From: nospam@nospam.com   
      
   Bertie the Bunyip wrote:   
      
   >   
   > There were dozens of things he would be doing. One, determining waht the   
   > problem was.   
   > Then, dealing with the immediate problem, an engine failure. Immediate   
   > relight attempt. Probably the APU was fired up to assist in the relight.   
   > as they would have been too slow for a windmill start.   
   > Then a quick call to ATC and probalby a couple of nav selections for the   
   > captain to look for a runway they could plunk it on.Then back to the   
   > relight drill. We're taught to keep trying that to the bitter end, BTW.   
   > They take a minute or so so he wouldn't have had time for more than one   
   > or two, and that would have been after the APU had fired up, say at   
   > abotu 1200'.  A couple of calls to the cabin would have been tossed in   
   > their somewhere as well.   
   > The act of picking up the book and finding the ditching checklist would   
   > have taken a good 20-30 seconds...Time they simply did not have.   
   > And this scenario is not done in the sim, so there would have been no   
   > trigger for it. BTW, I'm beign generous with the actions they may or may   
   > not have accomplished in the time they had. But all of them would come   
   > ahead of doing a "nice to do " ditching checklist.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > Bertie   
      
      
   The problem was  multiple bird strikes, with most probably catastrophic   
   engine failure, I don't think you are going to try a relight in that   
   situation.   
   Do not know who did the ATC call, but that can be handled by the flying   
   pilot.   
   There was no runway to look for, once they decided that TEB was too far,   
   and it seems that the decision to ditch was taken quite quickly, so no   
   really nav selections.   
   Once they decided to ditch because they figured that the engine would   
   not be restarted, then no more relight attempt.   
   If as you say they were going through the relight procedure, they would   
   already had the book in their hands, no need to pick it up, just had to   
   find the right procedure.   
   I do not know about the Airbus, but in a lot of aircraft ditching is   
   considered an emergency, once you decided to ditch that is the emergency   
   procedure you are following.   
      
   Again, maybe the Airbus is different, but for example on my aircraft the   
   ditch switch does more than "sealing" fuselage, it does:   
   -depressurizes the cabin (so you can open the doors)   
   -Shuts down the packs (so no risk of pressurization   
   -closes the outflow valves (so no water can get in.   
      
   Check list also calls for pulling the APU and engines fire handles, you   
   probably don't want to ditch with APU running (or engine you are still   
   trying to relight)   
      
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