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   "Bertie the Bunyip"  wrote in message   
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   > Flydive  wrote in news:4977884c$1_3@news.bluewin.ch:   
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   >> Bertie the Bunyip wrote:   
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   >>> There were dozens of things he would be doing. One, determining waht   
   >>> the problem was.   
   >>> Then, dealing with the immediate problem, an engine failure.   
   >>> Immediate relight attempt. Probably the APU was fired up to assist in   
   >>> the relight. as they would have been too slow for a windmill start.   
   >>> Then a quick call to ATC and probalby a couple of nav selections for   
   >>> the captain to look for a runway they could plunk it on.Then back to   
   >>> the relight drill. We're taught to keep trying that to the bitter   
   >>> end, BTW. They take a minute or so so he wouldn't have had time for   
   >>> more than one or two, and that would have been after the APU had   
   >>> fired up, say at abotu 1200'.  A couple of calls to the cabin would   
   >>> have been tossed in their somewhere as well.   
   >>> The act of picking up the book and finding the ditching checklist   
   >>> would have taken a good 20-30 seconds...Time they simply did not   
   >>> have. And this scenario is not done in the sim, so there would have   
   >>> been no trigger for it. BTW, I'm beign generous with the actions they   
   >>> may or may not have accomplished in the time they had. But all of   
   >>> them would come ahead of doing a "nice to do " ditching checklist.   
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   >>> Bertie   
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   >> The problem was  multiple bird strikes, with most probably   
   >> catastrophic engine failure, I don't think you are going to try a   
   >> relight in that situation.   
   >> Do not know who did the ATC call, but that can be handled by the   
   >> flying pilot.   
   >> There was no runway to look for, once they decided that TEB was too   
   >> far, and it seems that the decision to ditch was taken quite quickly,   
   >> so no really nav selections.   
   >> Once they decided to ditch because they figured that the engine would   
   >> not be restarted, then no more relight attempt.   
   >> If as you say they were going through the relight procedure, they   
   >> would already had the book in their hands, no need to pick it up, just   
   >> had to find the right procedure.   
   >> I do not know about the Airbus, but in a lot of aircraft ditching is   
   >> considered an emergency, once you decided to ditch that is the   
   >> emergency procedure you are following.   
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   >> Again, maybe the Airbus is different, but for example on my aircraft   
   >> the ditch switch does more than "sealing" fuselage, it does:   
   >> -depressurizes the cabin (so you can open the doors)   
   >> -Shuts down the packs (so no risk of pressurization   
   >> -closes the outflow valves (so no water can get in.   
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   > Nope, it just closes the holes in the belly.   
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   >> Check list also calls for pulling the APU and engines fire handles,   
   >> you probably don't want to ditch with APU running (or engine you are   
   >> still trying to relight)   
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   > Well, maybe you should go and drive your airplane into the hudson and   
   > show em how it's done.   
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   > Bertie   
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