XPost: alt.fan.frank.mccoy, alt.support.girl-lovers   
   From: mccoyf@millcomm.com   
      
   In alt.support.girl-lovers Laffy Taffy    
   wrote:   
      
   >> Savant ripped open a bag of Fritos, watched the inhabitants of a Sears'   
   >> dressing room masturbate ferociously, and sputtered...   
   >> >   
   >> > EnEss wrote:   
   >> > > "Savant" wrote:   
   >> > > >I also just noticed this said he was convicted, and I hope that someone   
   >> > > > brings up the points that I brought up in my earlier posting, and uses   
   >> > > > them in his appeals!   
   >> > >   
   >> > > You can't introduce new arguments into the appeal process. Appeals are a   
   >> > > review to look at possible errors in the trial.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Anything that gives a shock can leave marks on the skin because shocks   
   can   
   >> > > cause burns. I remember this story from when it was first in the news   
   and I   
   >> > > remember reading that police searched the home after interviewing the   
   child   
   >> > > and found the electric dog collar. The fact the collar was in the   
   family's   
   >> > > home supports the girl's story. And as I recall, there was other   
   evidence to   
   >> > > support the child had been neglected and abused. Just the fact that the   
   >> > > mother says neither she nor the child's birth father want the girl   
   anymore   
   >> > > because "the girl is a liar" shows how screwed up this woman is and   
   what an   
   >> > > abnormal mother she is--capable of really cruel abuse.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > The poor girl has probably already been seriously traumatized living in   
   this   
   >> > > environment. W/ luck, and a lot of support and counseling, perhaps she   
   can   
   >> > > survive w/ few enough scars that she can be fairly functional in life. I   
   >> > > hope a nice family is available to adopt her.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > NS   
   >> > > (add sbc before global to email)   
   >> >   
   >> > Yes, the collar being in the house does support her story, IF you take   
   >> > her story as being the truth and not a lie or fevered imagining of a   
   >> > person who is pissed at her parents and step-father for ANOTHER reason,   
   >> > that isn't abusive or criminal, and is using this accusation to get   
   >> > back at him.   
   >> > I had a girl accuse me of beating her recently, but I had PROOF that I   
   >> > didn't, because her parents had CCC's all over the house recording   
   >> > everything! She was pissed at me for something else I did (I believe   
   >> > she told her parents it was that I wouldn't go outside and play with   
   >> > her, leaving her toddler brother inside alone and sick), and decided   
   >> > "I'm going to punish Christopher by lying about him to my parents!"   
   >> > I know, you are going to say "No child's mind works that way", but I   
   >> > have met MANY children and adults whose minds work that way!   
   >>   
   >> > The mother might be telling the truth, that her daughter is a   
   >> > compulsive liar, and she just can't deal with her and her constant lies   
   >> > anymore. I've never had that problem, since my daughters are ALWAYS   
   >> > honest with me about everything, even when they accidentally break   
   >> > something or get into an accident, so I can't relate to her situation.   
   >> > I have come across children who are compulsive liars, and who lie about   
   >> > EVERYTHING, even things that if they told the truth would be GOOD for   
   >> > them, like telling the truth about wanting to go to the amusement park,   
   >> > getting an A on their test or something else like that.   
   >> > They just have a compulsion to lie and cannot control it for some   
   >> > whacky reason that exists in their brains.   
   >> >   
   >> > Second, you CAN raise other arguments, and get a re-trial, if you can   
   >> > prove that an attorney didn't do his job well or at all. Considering   
   >> > that in 5 minutes I came up with OTHER explanations as to why these   
   >> > marks existed, the attorney for the defense DIDN'T do his job well at   
   >> > all.   
   >> >   
   >> > Also, how do you KNOW that this family wasn't a loving family though   
   >> > emotionally distant from the girl, and the daughter wasn't just "Satan   
   >> > on steriods!" I met a girl and her brother who were like that once,   
   >> > always lying about everything and everyone, and smearing other people's   
   >> > reputations because they got enjoyment out of causing other's pain and   
   >> > suffering.   
   >> > They finally had to be locked up in an insane asylum, when they tried   
   >> > to attack a little girl who visited them, and nearly decapitated her   
   >> > with a scythe (missed her, but it was VERY close!).   
   >>   
   >   
   >Does anybody else get the feeling that Chrissy is just making up shit as   
   >he goes??? These stories rival ANYTHING Steven King has published in the   
   >last 10 years. What a fucking loon!   
      
      
   They *do* seem to have a made-up feeling to them.   
   He might (or might-not) have a point; but the stories do seem a bit ... trite.   
   I've met people who *were* compulsive liars; but attacking people with sharp   
   objects usually wasn't on their agenda (as far as I knew). Completely and   
   compulsively unable to tell the truth ... OK. THAT, I've seen. But the rest?   
      
   The problem was though: Even though the few people I've met who met that   
   description *should* have been in an institution to both protect innocent   
   people   
   around them AND themselves as well, none of them were. People just "put up   
   with   
   them" and seemed to take into account not to trust word-one out of their   
   mouths.   
   One such, other people told me, was supposedly a really nice person inside ...   
   she just couldn't tell two straight words in a row. That one I don't know   
   about   
   except through hearsay though. They SAID she was "basically nice". Maybe. I   
   still would have felt damned nervous around her.   
      
   Personally, when a person *cannot* tell the truth, I suspect brain-damage of   
   some sort. There are so *many* things that can go wrong with the brain ....   
      
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