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From: Benvolio7@comcast.aquanet
> Sinners like things the way they are, and Christians sin, but have
> regret over it; to a Christian sin never has the flavor or the control
> over them again. It isn't a recipe or a philosophy: It's a change; a
> reality. A Christian always walks out from wrong and gives good
> another try: he isn't a lost cause.
This simply isn't true. Christians sin all the time, and in addition to
that, most Christians commit the same sins over and over again, and are
still allowed to call themselves 'Christians.' Being a Christian does not
mean that we are automatically able to just ditch every sin and walk away
from it. It simply means that we follow Christ's teachings (at least, it
should... most Christians prefer the comfort of following their pastor's
teachings, which is not often the same thing as following Christ's
teachings). It's like that popular cop-out bumper sticker says, "Christians
aren't perfect, just forgiven."
Biblical definition of sinner
> means one who is a lost cause with no desire for the help of God.
>
It means going against God. Romans 3:23 says that "all have sinned and
fallen short of the glory of God." Does that really mean to say that 'all
have been lost causes with no desire for the help of God, and fallen short
of His glory?' Nope. Basically, Romans 3:"For there is no distinction; 23
since all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, 24 they are
justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption which is in Christ
Jesus,"
To try to say that Christians have the ability to just totally stop sinning
alltogether is just a lie.
I know you are going to say that I'm being anti-Christian, Voice...
something you've enjoyed doing in the past. I'm not though. I'm just
saying it as it is. Seeing as how Christians are human, that means we all
do bad things. Often times more than once.
--
~Ben
"There I was somewhere West of Tomorrowland
Flying through the stars just like Peter Pan
I said...Damn this looks too good to be true... "
--"Disneyland" by Five for Fighting
"voice from the past" wrote in message
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> dave wrote in message
news:<5p9m80pcemr6mvvuop1m6slug3ml1okinr@4ax.com>...
> > >Actually, the only way for you to go to hell is by NOT accepting Jesus
> > >Christ as your saviour. And no matter how many souls the devil
> > >collects, Armageddon IS going to happen and Chirst will be victorious!
> > >NOW PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT SINNER!
> > >
> > The original poster is a jerk but your reply makes it sound like he is
> > a sinner and you are not. I hope I misread it. We are all sinners.
> > That is why God sent Jesus to be the sacraficial lamb. He died for
> > our sins.
>
> Actually, he was right.
>
> Sinners like things the way they are, and Christians sin, but have
> regret over it; to a Christian sin never has the flavor or the control
> over them again. It isn't a recipe or a philosophy: It's a change; a
> reality. A Christian always walks out from wrong and gives good
> another try: he isn't a lost cause. Biblical definition of sinner
> means one who is a lost cause with no desire for the help of God.
>
> Being "reborn" means to be granted a guiding conscience that works
> even when the Christian runs away from "home": He can run from God but
> unfailingly comes back to him. It becomes more and more evident to
> the Christian as he lives on, that sin is a lost cause.
>
> As far as comparing himself to others: no Christian has any goodness
> he can claim as originating in him or herself. A Christian has no
> legs to walk on in claims of superiority. Only God is originally
> good. Christians are good when they are abiding with God: When they
> aren't is when they do wrong.
>
> voice from the past
>
> voice from the past
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