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   Message 323 of 2,118   
   Ivan Gowch to All   
   Re: Tigger Case and Plea Bargaining   
   05 Aug 04 15:40:52   
   
   XPost: alt.law-enforcement, alt.disney.disneyworld   
   From: ivangowch@SPAMTHEENOTyahoo.com   
      
   On Thu,  5 Aug 2004 19:02:38 +0200 (CEST), Anonymous via the   
   Cypherpunks Tonga Remailer  wrote:   
      
   ==>>Earlier this week, Chartrand rejected a plea offer that would have given   
   ==>>him probation.   
   ==>   
   ==>Swell Chap!  The most free and democratic country in the world was ready to   
   ==>convict and sentence "Tigger" to 15 years in prison for a mere touch.  And   
   ==>I thought murder gets on average eight years in the States.  I guess a   
   ==>woman's titties is worth more than a man's head.   
   ==>   
   ==>In the U.S., the standard practise is to "stack the charges" rather than to   
   ==>make one, prime charge against the defendant.  That way, for a minor   
   ==>offence, he faces a hundred years in jail instead of a hundred Dollar fine.   
   ==>Then, the District Attorney offers a "plea bargain" with the promise to   
   ==>reduce the hundred years down to say 30 days and probation.   
   ==>   
   ==>In Tigger's case, the completely innocent defendant was offered probation   
   ==>in leu of 15 years.  What does that really mean?  It means that innocent   
   ==>man would have been saddled with a FELONY CONVICTION,  been a house-bound   
   ==>prisoner for years, have to register as a SEX OFFENDER,  and then been   
   ==>DEPORTED as an undesirable alien.  All for doing nothing.  Never, ever plea   
   ==>bargain unless you know you're guilty and have no possiblity of winning   
   ==>your case.   
      
   		No.   Never plea bargain at all.   
      
   		Ever.   
      
   		If everyone charged by the ludicrously incompetent,   
   		biased and evil Amerikan "justice" system insisted on   
   		availing themselves of their rights -- ALL their   
   		rights -- and fought the charges every step of the   
   		way, the systyem would grind to a halt and   
   		desperately needed reforms would be made.   
      
      
   --   
   THE RULES OF RESISTANCE   
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   
   NEVER tell the police anything.   
   NEVER consent to a search.   
   NEVER confess.   
   NEVER discuss your case with others.   
   NEVER plea bargain.   
   ALWAYS demand a lawyer.   
   ALWAYS plead not guilty.   
   ALWAYS demand a full jury trial.   
   ALWAYS appeal, if you are convicted.   
   ALWAYS pass on these rules.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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