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|    Are we ready for a gay pervert Disney pr    |
|    13 May 16 00:33:53    |
      XPost: sac.politics, alt.politics.democrats, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh       XPost: alt.politics.homosexuality       From: roto-rooter@flush.com              The antelopes next door were gay — maybe.              For viewers of the animated Disney hit Zootopia, it's been a bit       of a guessing game. In an early scene, rookie rabbit police       officer Judy moves into her new apartment and meets her new       neighbors. Bucky and Pronk are both antelopes and both men, who       live together and bicker like a married couple. But . . . were       they?              The answer, available to sharp-eyed movie fans, comes in the       closing credits: Bucky and Pronk share a last name, Oryx-       Antlerson.              While gay and lesbian characters are standard players in movies       and TV shows for adults, they remain a fleeting or barely       acknowledged presence in children's entertainment.              Last week, a campaign to change this caught fire on Twitter,       under the hashtag #GiveElsaAGirlfriend — a plea to Disney to       make one half of its beloved princess duo a lesbian in the       forthcoming sequel to its 2013 animated blockbuster Frozen.              A kids' movie may seem like the last place to be talking about       sex. But advocates note that in almost every gaudy princess film       or action-packed superhero cartoon, there are relationships —       moms and dads, aunts and uncles, princes and princesses — that,       thus far, have quietly reinforced a very traditional standard       for romantic love.              Yet Disney and other giants of children's entertainment have       evolved over the decades to reflect changing norms — from       including characters of many races to ditching the trope of       helpless damsels in distress. Could creating a hero with two       dads, or giving a princess a girlfriend, be the next step?              Some Disney fans argued on Twitter that it would have been a       huge help for them to see gay characters in movies when they       were young — that they might have become more sensitive and       accepting towards gay peers, or better able to grapple with       their own sexuality. Studies have suggested that seeing gay       characters in popular entertainment can decrease prejudice       toward those groups.              "There is no doubt that kids seeing positively portrayed gay       characters could have a significant effect that would contribute       to such children's learning about the world and who is in it,"       said Edward Schiappa, a professor of comparative media studies       at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.              But doing so is a risk for children's entertainment companies,       who have a financial incentive to make movies as widely       accessible — and therefore as non-controversial — as possible.              "It can be any little thing that will set off a firestorm," said       Lori Pearson, lead critic for Kids-In-Mind, a nonpartisan, non-       religious group that warns parents of potentially unsavory       content in movies. Pearson points to a time in the mid-1990s       when a rumor spread that in The Little Mermaid, there was a       suggestive bulge in the pants of the man officiating the wedding       of Princess Ariel. Conservative groups called on parents to       boycott not just the 1989 classic but all Disney products. The       bulge, of course, was nothing more than the cartoon character's       knee.              "Now, especially with the advent of Twitter and places where       information can travel quickly, if a certain group decides       something in the content is unacceptable, it will spread, and       people will decide based on that information not to go see the       movie," Pearson said. "And that will ultimately affect the box       office."              When asked if Disney might include an explicitly gay character       in a kids film, the company responded that its brand "has always       been inclusive, with stories that reflect acceptance and       tolerance and celebrate the differences that make our characters       uniquely wonderful in their own way. . . . Disney remains       committed to continuing to create characters that are accessible       and relatable to all children."              To date, Disney's only obvious instance of a same-sex       relationship in children's entertainment came on the small       screen. In an episode of Disney Channel's Good Luck Charlie, one       of Charlie's friends had two moms.              The only explicitly gay character in a kids' movie came in       ParaNorman, an animated film from Laika, an independent       production company. The 2012 cartoon, nominated for the best       animated feature Oscar, included a scene in which the character       voiced by Anna Kendrick asks a bulky bro named Mitch on a date.       Mitch responds by telling her, "You're going to love my       boyfriend."              "I knew it was the first of its kind when I was writing it,"       said director Chris Butler, who is gay. "I honestly don't think       I worried much about it, but maybe I was a bit naive." Butler       drew criticism from some conservative viewers that he had       essentially tricked the audience into liking Mitch before       revealing he was gay.              He says his intention was to have every character in the film       subvert stereotypes: The bully turns out to be weak, the mean       cheerleader becomes loving, the jock is revealed as proudly gay.       Plus, he noted, the goofy horror story was meant to pay homage       to the old Scooby-Doo cartoons. And Mitch was the member of the       gang most like Scooby-Doo's Fred.              "Of course Fred was gay," Butler said. "Anyone who wears white       cashmere sweaters and little neckerchiefs is probably not as       interested in Daphne as he says he is."              Pop culture geeks have long swapped theories about cartoonish       characters who maybe-sort of gave off a gay vibe, including       cross-dressing Bugs Bunny, high-pitched-voiced SpongeBob       SquarePants and best friends/roommates Ernie and Bert. Sesame       Street's production company was even compelled to put out a       statement on the latter topic some years ago: "They are not gay,       they are not straight, they are puppets."              Traditionally in shows meant for kids, even the characters whom       their writers intend to be gay almost never came out and said       so. One of the earliest instances of a homosexual relationship       in a cartoon was on ABC Family's Braceface. In 2004, the show's       Sharon (voiced by Alicia Silverstone) set up her Celine Dion-       loving male friend with an interior decorator working on her       mom's office. She went on and on about how the boys were a       perfect fit for each other, yet the word "gay" was never used.              "That probably wouldn't have been acceptable to parents," said       Melissa Clark, the show's creator. "But it was clearly wrapped       in rainbows."              Most of the hinting done since has been far more subtle, like       the scene in Zootopia, or an incredibly brief moment in Frozen:       When the character Anna visits a trading post, its owner waves       to his family members, sitting in a a nearby sauna. There are       four young-looking girls and one large blonde man, who could be       the male owner's husband. The family is onscreen for less than       two seconds.              If Disney seems to be creeping cautiously towards recognizing       diverse sexualities, it's a natural step in the company's long       history of reflecting changing cultural norms.              In the 1940s, President Franklin Roosevelt asked Hollywood       studios to make their films more appealing to South Americans,              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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