XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.supp   
   rt.schizophrenia   
   From: being@apolka.sign   
      
   Noah wrote:   
   > ansaman wrote:   
   >> Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> As a matter of fact.  Civilization is an unnatural act.  That doesn't   
   >>> mean that humans will stop trying to make it work.   
   >>   
   >>What makes it an unnatural act?   
      
   Semantics.   
   One might state, what is artificial is not natural, naturally.   
      
   Food naturally falls from the sky. Trees are natural.   
   Nuts and fruits are free for the taking. Picking   
   at meanings of words can mean a point   
   is not taken as being axiomatic.   
      
   >>Are you saying that   
   >>man is not a natural phenomena? What do you base that on?   
   >   
   >The natural thing was that humans would be hunter gatherers.   
      
   Taoist philosophy tends to have a view of how village life   
   is ideal for people. Folks are civil without being city dwellers.   
   They have transportation vehicles but no need to go anywhere.   
      
   With hoards of individuals, populations compete for resources. Wars   
   are fought naturally and genocide is what some ant-species dew.   
      
   Water condenses, naturally.   
   People build buildings when they cluster.   
      
   With agriculture and technology, what is good may turn bad.   
   Problems grow out of thin air and fall out of place, naturally.   
      
   One could imagine having access to the Internet without using it.   
   To harness electricity can be called, unnatural. Like a horse who   
   has a bit in its mouth and is kicked to start it moving with power.   
      
   - cud happens ... ruminating ... Thanks!   
      
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