XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.supp   
   rt.schizophrenia   
   From: being@apolka.sign   
      
   Noah wrote:   
   > ansaman wrote:   
      
   >>That is the right of the apex predator, totally natural. Man   
   >>is the ultimate apex predator.   
   >   
   >Not when he is living in his natural role as hunter gatherer.  Also,   
   >mosquitoes need to eat too.  Diseases are organisms that need to eat.   
   >The only time an animal kills another naturally is to eat.   
      
   Unless it is for some other, so-called, reason.   
      
   Chopping, slicing and dicing, hedging and rationalizing, poison   
   can be poisonous and kill individuals on occasion. To defend   
   a position, words might be taken out of context such as, only,   
   the only time, or, naturally, etc.   
      
   When killer bees sting or snakes bite or ants make war, excuses   
   can be given, such as, they do it, naturally, to eat. They must   
   defend their hives or nests, so they can eat, and reproduce.   
      
   >Humans are dangerous animals, but there are others far better equipped   
   >to be predators.  Humans are omnivores, not lions who must hunt.   
      
   A saying can be said, humans evolved brains. Brains   
   equip humans to do what other animals don't do, naturally.   
      
   >Humans in groups can kill large herbivores like buffalos with pointy   
   >sticks, but it is a dangerous undertaking.  Humans were not meant be   
   >able to stand a distance away and kill buffalo with guns.   
      
   To say, humans were meant, or not meant,   
   might mean something. As if evolution has meaning   
   other than to select naturally a species fit to survive.   
      
   While at times, given an evolutionary theory of natural   
   selection the fittest might be the best fit, it's not always   
   the fittest who survive. Merely a fit that fits will fit.   
      
   >And finally, it is known that humans age as their cells become less   
   >able to deal with the products of metabolism, like urea.  The solution   
   >to not growing old, is enable our cells to become able to handle urea   
   >as in the past.  Why not, they could do it before?  Yes, researchers   
   >are working on it.  In time, yes, humans will refuse to die, refuse to   
   >be natural.   
      
   A saying could be said, animal bodies are   
   not natural for spiritual beings to inhabit.   
      
   Energy-beings, being eternal beings, now, at present   
   may take shape and form their bodies naturally as well   
   as by intentional or artificial works of art, naturally.   
      
   Being in the moment, eternally, the present unfolds.   
   Always now, some spiritual beings know they have bodies   
   and at the same time are not those physical bodies, naturally.   
      
   >Not meant too... That suggests that somebody did the meaning.   
      
   Some body such as your   
   very own self, naturally, as you wrote.   
      
   >  Not   
   >necessary.  There is only the contrast between what we were not too   
   >long ago and what we are now.  Our brains are wired for the old life,   
   >haven't had the million years it takes to adapt to the new one.   
      
   Cooking might have been discovered after fire   
   burned a bite of meat to a slight crisp and then   
   when inventions were invented, stoves grew   
   naturally as Being evolved through Existence.   
      
   >Meanwhile ecological systems, where the worm eats dead things in the   
   >soil, birds eat the worms, cats eat the birds, cats die and feed the   
   >worms, and everything that lives is in balance with everything else in   
   >an endless cycle, are going away.   
      
   Expanding and contracting,   
   Mother Nature breathes   
   Her creatures in to Being.   
      
   Climates change and Natural Selection selects   
   using its god-like power which species survive   
   and which are extinct at times in the blink of   
   the Eye that sails to Sea and seizes the day.   
      
   > Humans don't like that, it is   
   >messy.  Humans simply want to be the only ones here except for dog and   
   >cat pets, maybe.   
      
   Some humans, maybe.   
   Some want to keep pets in tanks, cages, on a leash.   
   Some want to save the whales, ecosystems, live and let live.   
      
   > No diseases, no death, forever.  It is natural to   
   >want that, but not to actually be able to do it.   
      
   Personally, I'm ready to go, to leave like a tree leaves   
   without making a stand or stay, today of all days in a daze.   
      
   To want to live, physically, forever   
   does not impress me as being all that great.   
      
   >What, I want to be the only one here?  I don't want that.   
      
   Misery loves company?   
      
   >Of course you don't.   
      
   Naturally, some people fall in love.   
   Some might hate, or not. Emotions vary.   
      
   > But the things humans generally do want will   
   >eventually cause that.   
      
   Extinction events are natural.   
      
   >Who cares about mosquitoes and frogs?  The mosquitoes eats you, the   
   >frog eats the mosquito, the heron eats the frog.  Messy.  Great Blue   
   >Herons are so beautiful.  Put a plastic one in your front yard.   
      
   - have a beer! Cheers!   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)