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   rt.schizophrenia   
   From: fedora@fea.st   
      
   On Fri, 9 Jul 2021 16:31:06 -0400, ansaman  wrote:   
      
   >On 7/9/2021 3:30 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >> Oh, yes.  On the other hand, respite from civilization is a real need,   
   >> and the feeling that "I didn't choose this" is close at hand for many   
   >> of us.   
   >   
   >I maintain that the real nature is not quite what you   
   >think without all our technology.   
      
   Then there is the problem about how we invented all kinds of whatzits   
   and forgot that what we really needed to change was ourselves.   
      
   Humans are now hunter gatherer brains living in a world they don't   
   understand.  Didn't choose.   
      
   >You have a romanticized   
   >idea of what that is like. Go into the wilderness with   
   >maybe what food you can carry and a little bit of kindling   
   >and see to your own shelter and resupply. Get the real   
   >experience.   
   >   
   >I used to hike deep into the woods and build a fire   
   >and have a weenie roast and spend many hours there,   
   >but I made sure it was winter when all the vermin   
   >were safely tucked in their beds and I didn't stay   
   >long. I also was a very healthy 17 year old.   
      
   Noah Sombrero   
      
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