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   Noah Sombrero to ansaman   
   Re: I came to the conclusion   
   09 Jul 21 19:46:16   
   
   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.supp   
   rt.schizophrenia   
   From: fedora@fea.st   
      
   On Fri, 9 Jul 2021 17:57:14 -0400, ansaman  wrote:   
      
   >On 7/9/2021 4:45 PM, Noah Sombrero wrote:   
   >> Then there is the problem about how we invented all kinds of whatzits   
   >> and forgot that what we really needed to change was ourselves.   
   >>   
   >> Humans are now hunter gatherer brains living in a world they don't   
   >> understand.  Didn't choose.   
   >   
   >I think we understand it way too well. No matter what   
   >obstacles we overcome, we are never seemingly winners   
   >because we then raise the standards. Buddha pointed   
   >that out. We are never satisfied.   
      
   Not only do we not understand the world, but we also do not understand   
   ourselves.   
      
   >If there is no suffering,   
   >we generate it with ever greater desires. I have better   
   >food, better living conditions, better medical care,   
   >and more entertainment than anyone alive on the day   
   >my grandfather was born in 1900. Of course, others   
   >have a lot more than me and they are not satisfied.   
      
   Does that tell you the need is for better this and that or better us?   
      
   >We created this world. We chose it willingly and   
   >knowingly.   
      
   Sorta.  It still feels like "I did not choose this" to many.   
   Feelings, of course, are not rational.   They simply are.   
      
   >I am sorry, your perspective is totally   
   >out of whack. Yes, we can do a lot more to preserve   
   >the environment and we ARE doing a lot more. Where   
   >did all these electric cars come from? All these   
   >low energy LED light bulbs we don't burn fossil   
   >fuel to run? The clean air standards that started   
   >under Nixon! The environmental cleanup? Sorry, but   
   >look at India and China... they have made their   
   >countries into garbage cans, but who gets the   
   >fingers pointed at them? We do because that suits   
   >the forces that are competing with us politically   
   >and economically on the world stage.   
   >   
   >There is always room for improvement, but the   
   >Church of Despair sells dissatisfaction wholesale   
   >and it keeps the money rolling in.   
      
   Noah Sombrero   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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