XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.supp   
   rt.schizophrenia   
   From: fedora@fea.st   
      
   On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 06:09:34 -0700, one  wrote:   
      
   >ansaman wrote:   
   >> one wrote:   
   >   
   >>> Reminds me of the old man, the young man and a star-fish.   
   >>   
   >>Great story. One day, the mutant starfish   
   >>army will rise up out of the deep and pull   
   >>people apart with their mighty suckers,   
   >>but that guy and all like him will be   
   >>spared and kept as pets.   
   >   
   >Differences make all the difference   
   >for those and to sum all things add up.   
   >   
   >Subtraction may give one traction to a point.   
   >A few verses in a Taoist text arrive to mine.   
   >   
   >To gain ground, a flower flowers in the eyes   
   >of those who can't see a flower being for no   
   >reason other than one, two, three & 10k be.   
   >   
   >A flower reaches for a star, a sun, the Sun.   
   >To say it does sew to reproduce its elf, its   
   >elves may sound like myth, ore moths.   
   >   
   >Doing nothing, a flower is drawn to flower   
   >by all the factors which draw it near to be   
   >no thing other than what it is, to flower.   
   >   
   >Asking why, the reason, children's dew   
   >condenses out of learning language.   
   >Those who seek knowledge, gain.   
   >   
   >Ways are Ways, is a given, axiomatic.   
   >Those who seek Tao can be said to be yet   
   >another one of all the ones that are.   
   >   
   >Finding the Tao that is the Tao,   
   >one could be said to be, not-always,   
   >not-common, unusual, two say the least.   
   >   
   >Civilization springs from the earth, Earth,   
   >flowering as it flowers. As if it exists and is   
   >separate from. Those who carve, carve.   
   >   
   >- metaphors vary ... Thanks! Cheers!   
      
   The rule of the universe is that all matter descends to total   
   disorder.  Entropy must decrease.  That is the existing that seems to   
   do itself.  Has no reason, simply is.  That does not mean that there   
   is no reason, only that humans on this planet don't know what it is.   
   Other planets might have creatures that do know.   
      
   Earth life is based on reverse entropy fueled by energy from the sun.   
   The rule seems to be that energy once trapped must remain in the   
   system as long as possible, as organisms pass it from one to another   
   as they eat each other in one way or the other.  That also seems to do   
   itself.  Still, other creatures on other planets might understand how   
   that happens.   
      
   To assume there is no reason (it simply is a process doing itself)   
   simply because you don't know the reason is hubris.   
      
   In the mean time, I know you as a separate awareness.  I must deal   
   with you in terms of that separateness.  To assume other realities is   
   not useful simply because I am ignorant concerning what is really   
   going on.   
      
   Noah Sombrero   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)