XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.supp   
   rt.schizophrenia   
   From: being@apolka.sign   
      
   Noah wrote:   
      
   >The rule of the universe is that all matter descends to total   
   >disorder.  Entropy must decrease.   
      
   Lots of presumptions in those two statements.   
      
   > That is the existing that seems to   
   >do itself.  Has no reason, simply is.   
      
   Tis the Law!   
   Sew the physicists weave   
   their spell on their own very s'elves.   
      
   >  That does not mean that there   
   >is no reason, only that humans on this planet don't know what it is.   
   >Other planets might have creatures that do know.   
      
   Jah-mon.   
      
   You can be the reason. You are.   
   Each point is the point beyond being a.   
      
   >Earth life is based on reverse entropy fueled by energy from the sun.   
      
   Obviously, Earth exists.   
   Obviously, the Sun rises and sets.   
      
   Know. Wait. That the Sun only appears   
   to rise and set is what appears when it appears.   
      
   When appearances appear to appear such   
   that reality shifts that reality from being   
   the one and only Reality, appears.   
      
   >The rule seems to be that energy once trapped must remain in the   
   >system as long as possible, as organisms pass it from one to another   
   >as they eat each other in one way or the other.   
      
   The purpose of porpoises is to eat, to reproduce.   
   Not to surf any waves. Nay. No fun for them. Ever.   
      
   None are able to be simply,   
   simply to be for the Being that is.   
      
   A myth may say, Being is. Bliss is. And   
   going further, consciousness is. Sat-chit-ananda.   
      
   Once existence exists, devolution occurs. Being involved.   
   Involved beings of Being, of Existence get, like, all involved.   
      
   >  That also seems to do   
   >itself.  Still, other creatures on other planets might understand how   
   >that happens.   
      
   Big fish eat little fish and sew on and on fish are.   
   Eating to eat. Reproducing to reproduce. For no reason other   
   than being Energy at play. A dance, the Dance to dance, naturally.   
      
   >To assume there is no reason (it simply is a process doing itself)   
   >simply because you don't know the reason is hubris.   
      
   To assume a reason exists prior to existence   
   can be to hitch up a horse, which is, unnatural.   
      
   First, ontologically, Existence is.   
   Immediately, a reification occurs.   
      
   Given: Being is. Existence is.   
   Then, a cause, causes, a reason, reasons, emerge.   
   Carving is what carvers carve out of what is, naturally, Uncarved.   
      
   To place reason prior to existence, one can.   
   One cans a can full of worms and may box with a box   
   of being, being how frogs are and sea-turtles know how to swim.   
      
   >In the mean time, I know you as a separate awareness.   
      
   Given: Tao Chia, assuming that's a topic among topics.   
   While the well-frog was astonished at the sea-turtle's domain,   
   at the same time the sea-turtle remained unable to get   
   beyond a knee in to where the well-frog dwelled.   
      
   >  I must deal   
   >with you in terms of that separateness.   
      
   Well, if you must then   
   then you must then.   
      
   >  To assume other realities is   
   >not useful simply because I am ignorant concerning what is really   
   >going on.   
      
   Assuming a really, really is, going on.   
      
   - naturally! Cheers!   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)