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   one to Noah   
   Re: I came to the conclusion   
   13 Jul 21 08:44:48   
   
   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.supp   
   rt.schizophrenia   
   From: being@apolka.sign   
      
   Noah wrote:   
   > one wrote:   
   >> Noah wrote:   
      
   >>> And my cat can decide it owns a different human resident   
   >>>in this household and not me.  Such being the experience of separate   
   >>>wills.  The atomic unity is not so significant for us in living the   
   >>>moment, irrelavent even.   
   >>   
   >>Aye. Agree. A natural Way for people is to people   
   >>their world with separate individuals, so-called, by name.   
   >   
   >So, the universe as expressed by you wishes to unname itself.   
      
   Water has no wishes   
   and yet it, as a thing, nourishes.   
      
   To suppose some universe, wishes, sounds like fishes.   
      
   >  Other   
   >expressions don't see the point of that.  As soon as the universe   
   >figures out what it wants, us expressions will be a lot less confused.   
      
   The universe.   
   It wants.   
      
   To suppose, the universe, exists, is to reify.   
   To superimpose, desire, suggests an odd feature.   
      
   Articles of language, e.g., the, a, an   
   may give rise to what words work without working   
   to a point, beyond which, language maps map and the map,   
   as the first line in a Taoist text may suggest isn't always territory.   
      
   Categories are able to categorize eyes to sea.   
   Does a thing, Life, exist. One may say, yes. Oar know.   
      
   As forms of Life, does Life want its forms to all eat.   
   To eat its other forms forms in the mind, aye.   
      
   Does this, Life, reified thing, exist.   
   Is the noun other than a mind thing, a category.   
      
   Sew two with any universe, let alone, the, Universe.   
   To project desire, reason, wants, purpose, is possible.   
      
   Roar shocks blot.   
      
   >>Names name. So a second line in an ancient text may suggest.   
   >>A name that is unusual if not beyond names, naming that   
   >>has bins of hats is impossible, naturally.   
   >>   
   >>- being beyond language ... Thanks again! Cheers!   
   >   
   >Being beyond language is fine if you are staring at a wall.   
      
   It's even more better, in the Zone.   
      
   Know words, knowing words, intellectually,   
   one mite wonders, how does one ride a bike.   
      
   Beyond language, one beats one's own heart.   
   One grows one's hair, without knowing how.   
      
   How to say, using words, one shines the stars.   
   One is a point, the point of many points, of Being.   
      
   >Using language to get beyond language, is the hammer holding a nail   
   >and wondering how this thing works.   
      
   - beware of Being all thumbs ... Cheers!   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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