XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.supp
rt.schizophrenia
From: fedora@fea.st
On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 06:38:05 -0700, one wrote:
>Noah wrote:
>> one wrote:
>>> Noah wrote:
>>>> one wrote:
>>>>> Noah wrote:
>>>>>> one wrote:
>>>>>>> Noah wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And my cat can decide it owns a different human resident
>>>>>>>>in this household and not me. Such being the experience of separate
>>>>>>>>wills. The atomic unity is not so significant for us in living the
>>>>>>>>moment, irrelavent even.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Aye. Agree. A natural Way for people is to people
>>>>>>>their world with separate individuals, so-called, by name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So, the universe as expressed by you wishes to unname itself.
>>>>>
>>>>>Water has no wishes
>>>>>and yet it, as a thing, nourishes.
>>>>>
>>>>>To suppose some universe, wishes, sounds like fishes.
>>>>
>>>>Also to suppose not.
>>>
>>>Aye. Duality springs
>>>spring from what, a what,
>>>which includes both and
>>>at the same time is
>>>neither/nor.
>>
>>It doesn't matter from where it springs. It matters whether there is
>>sufficient milk in the fridge for parents and kids to have breakfast.
>
>Without civilization, there'd be no fridge.
>Are refrigerators natural. Freon is as bad as neon
>lights that make artifical beings more artificial
>not to mention napalm.
>
>Is a feature of reality good.
>Is a phenomenon bad. Both. Neither. What matters, matters.
>
>>But when seated on a mat on the floor, with legs crossed and hands
>>just so, one can think about non-duality all day long if one pleases.
>
>Returning to a Tao, indeed without deeds pleases me.
>When finding a Tao in action, inaction, so to speak can be key.
>
>Hunters hunted when hungry, presumably.
>Gatherers gathered and learned to plant seeds, naturally.
>Agriculture sprang from the earth as Earth peopled its self.
>Its elves were imagined and from there the gods ruled.
>
>>>> In the meantime, humans are left to decide what
>>>>is best.
>>>
>>>Some humans are left. Some are right. Right.
>>>To the left of left many are. A middle path exists.
>>>One mite says, many middles Paths are. Tao. Plural.
>>
>>That is the problem. Humans cannot agree on what is best so very
>>little gets done, other than accumulate wealth.
>
>Democracy has its merits and can be problematic.
>Two parties, three parties, party animals party.
Unfortunately there is nobody here but us to people these structures
meant to manage human imperfection.,
>In a land, an artificial mythical place, China,
>much is able to get done begotten of its nature.
>
>Before China was China, old men, the Lao Tzu passed
>on their wisdom and through a gateless gate at a pass
>in a long longing for what was beyond empire buildings.
>
>> Those who have wealth
>>agree that is best, and since wealth brings power, accumulate wealth
>>is what happens.
>
>To have riches beyond material things
>a mystic, a metaphysician may know, jnana
>knowing how what is non-physical goes and is.
So it seems. The wisdom beyond material things must stay in the
non-material. That does not mean that such wisdom is not wise, or
that material does not have it's imperatives.
>If civilization is seen as bad, the view is.
>If one's country, or any nation-state of mind is viewed
>then one has entered a map making-reality, that reality.
>
>When one has a body or is some body, an individual so-
>called to be apart from all others, then that's t'hat.
>
>Being a part of, one's outside is one as is one's inside
>and the skin being full of holes might be holy cow man!
>
>>>> So far they have considered little beyond how to sell a city
>>>>plot with house or a rural plot with farm for a million dollars or
>>>>better. So they have little evidence as to what might be better for
>>>>humans who are not real estate agents. I suggest that such evidence
>>>>might be useful, as opposed to the proposition that there are no uses,
>>>>only the universe doing itself.
>>>
>>>Those who seek money may find
>>>beyond some amount, they render.
>>>Tender may be legal and yet knot.
>>
>>All the bank robbers are not in prison. Then there are the robber
>>banks. Very dual, but it does interfere with the supply of milk for
>>breakfast.
>
>Toilet paper was another story.
>Indoor plumbing, how civil that is.
>Sewage treatment plants a flag.
>
>>>... snip ...
>>>
>>>>>>>Names name. So a second line in an ancient text may suggest.
>>>>>>>A name that is unusual if not beyond names, naming that
>>>>>>>has bins of hats is impossible, naturally.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>- being beyond language ... Thanks again! Cheers!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Being beyond language is fine if you are staring at a wall.
>>>>>
>>>>>It's even more better, in the Zone.
>>>>>
>>>>>Know words, knowing words, intellectually,
>>>>>one mite wonders, how does one ride a bike.
>>>>>
>>>>>Beyond language, one beats one's own heart.
>>>>>One grows one's hair, without knowing how.
>>>>
>>>>Human needs are now of much larger scope,
>>>
>>>Many humans, as humans, have needs they knead.
>>>
>>>>but also without knowing
>>>>how. Maybe it might be useful to know how to do these more difficult
>>>>things.
>>>
>>>Strategies vary. What works once, twice, three times
>>>might fail on the fourth attempt. Still one mite tries.
>>>
>>>Being still, a still mite knows.
>>>
>>>Beyond a singularity, mathematics and physics can't go.
>>
>>Oh, I suspect modern physics is far beyond that whether physicists
>>know it or not.
>
>What works, works. Effort is kneaded.
>What works-without-working is easy.
>
>>>- domains of a map's map may vary ...
>
>- thanks again! Cheers!
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Noah Sombrero
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