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rt.schizophrenia
From: fedora@fea.st
On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 08:52:28 -0700, one wrote:
>Noah wrote:
>> one wrote:
>>> Noah wrote:
>>>> one wrote:
>>>>> Noah wrote:
>>>>>> one wrote:
>>>>>>> Noah wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The rule of the universe is that all matter descends to total
>>>>>>>>disorder. Entropy must decrease.
>
>Why must entropy decrease?
>
>>>>>>>Lots of presumptions in those two statements.
>
>Why say, descends?
>Why assume total disorder isn't total order?
>
>Given your understanding of entropy;
>without additional energy added to a system,
>doesn't entropy increase?
>
>>>>>>Verifiable presumptions, based on mathematics and observation.
>>>>>
>>>>>Usually, entropy increases, naturally, given: a type of system.
>>>>>
>>>>>Entropy must decrease, if.
>>>>
>>>>There can be temporary diversions, but ultimately, it must go to zero.
>>>
>>>A form of heat-death might suggest an approach to absolute zero.
>>>Why temperature can't reach zero is beyond me at this time.
>>
>>Humans experience atomic vibration as heat.
>
>Assuming so-called humans, atomes, heat
>and experience exist, naturally, okay.
>
>> Absolute zero is where
>>atoms have stopped vibrating.
>
>A point which is never reached, given: a theory.
>
>> It is possible to get very close to
>>this in a lab, but there will always be some vibration seeping in. The
>>problem is if you have an atom at absolute zero, what can you store it
>>is that does not provide heat?
>
>Why would one care to store an it
>in an atom which does not exist?
>
>Does a single atom ever exist?
>
>An understanding of mine is, molecules exist.
>
>To suppose a single say, gold atom exists
>might be given, given: a periodic table of sorts.
>
>Sorts are sorts, naturally.
>People sort, carve and divide, to a point.
>
>When a gold atom is divided, one is no longer gold.
>
>Once upon a time, a golden lion was.
>Said to be, all that is, it was such as it was.
>
>Forms of it formed, all being gold.
>The lion roared. Its ink blots blot
>a mind which divides all things.
>
>>But as Neil Tyson says, the universe is not obligated to make sense to
>>you.
>
>Astonishing to me, many so-called things are.
>Processes as well well and dwell in a mind of mine.
>More than one mine may be mined. Aye.
>
>Knowing how things eat other things, how bizarre.
>What's going on. Is there a what. Forms eating forms.
>Digesting thought, thought waves wave. At me. Two me.
>
>>>An impression of mine can have as a given: entropy increases.
>>>Entropy increases until an equilibrium is reached. Heat-loss occurs.
>>
>>There is a sort of equilibrium or even a cycle right now. But in some
>>billions of years, the stars begin to die out, and the heat source is
>>gone. Then absolute zero can be reached.
>>
>>>To suppose a unverse, the Universe, exists can be supposed.
>>>
>>>To say it's full of matter and energy can be to say a difference
>>>between matter, energy and the Universe is said to be.
>>
>>Actually, they seem to be two different forms of the same thing, like
>>ice and water. The universe is not obligated to make sense. Why do
>>mass and time change as speed increases? No sense.
>
>Light waves frequently.
>One drops a pebble. Water waves.
>All at once, two are not two. Two is knot.
>
>>That does not mean we are entitled to say, there is no universe.
>
>Categories are able to be invented
>to describe, two map. Does a forest exist. Do trees.
>From a pov, only atoms exist. From another, only chemistry.
>
>> We
>>can say that the universe cannot be understood from our limited finite
>>perspective.
>
>Aye. We may agree.
>
>> That does not mean there is no perspective from which it
>>could be understood.
>
>From a pov of some, thing in a fridge. We may chill.
>Beer is a thing. It's enjoyed by a form of me.
>What is this thing, me. What is a you.
>Is you a who, and a form of me too.
>
>>>To say the Universe is energy can be a saying.
>>>
>>>Matter is energy, solidified in ways as a phase is
>>>shifted from and to, being divided by light-squared,
>>>just as energy is matter multiplied by c-squared.
>>>
>>>The Universe matters as it is matter. It's what matters.
>>>It's energetic as it is, pure energy. And some say there is
>>>the invisible matter and the invisible energy which are
>>>said to comprise most of what it is, said to be.
>>>
>>>Are they all the same, or different, one may wonder.
>>>Is ice or steam different from an ocean as a notion.
>>>Does the Universe contain its parts or is it 10k-things.
>>>
>>>Will it die a heat-death and its temperature approach zero
>>>or will it go without going, expanding and contracting.
>>
>>It seems it expands but will not contract. So we think. That does
>>not mean that such thinkings are without merit.
>
>Observation. Observers. Nouns are observed.
>Actions vary. At times a Zone is. Why carve. Why chop.
>
>Given a given, reasons emerge, after the given is given.
>
>Purpose may be presupposed. As if Existence were not prior.
>
>Categories, invented, mapped. Carving, chips fly. Imagine, hats.
>
>>>Is it not you and you not it or
>>>is it you and you are it, ore, refined over time.
>>
>>You are something the universe is doing right now, so said somebody or
>>other.
>
>To be the Universe as it unfolds, one may be One, all t'old.
>
>Tales for the telling, stories built. Story up on story.
>Buildings building civilizations arise. Artificial.
>All natural. Semantics. Contexts.
>Fragments of the sentences
>sentenced for a spell.
Useful till you and I put them down and walk away. They might then be
picked up by others and be useful again.
>- smoke and mirrors, eye. Cheers!
--
Noah Sombrero
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