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   Noah Sombrero to one   
   Re: I came to the conclusion   
   16 Jul 21 10:08:12   
   
   XPost: alt.buddha.short.fat.guy, alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.supp   
   rt.schizophrenia   
   From: fedora@fea.st   
      
   On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 05:29:07 -0700, one  wrote:   
      
   >Noah wrote:   
   >> one wrote:   
   >   
   >>>For ten thousand years the hemisphere was pristine.   
   >>   
   >>It is as if humans have become self aware sometime between then and   
   >>now.  Then it did not matter what humans did, nature was able to   
   >>absorb it all because humans were so few.   
   >   
   >Perhaps.   
   >Maybe, as nomads, they knew   
   >what to do and what not to do to excess.   
   >   
   >Whether they were happier, living as nomads   
   >was a question. Could be their moods were as mine are.   
      
   Struggling to overcome early death and the chewing of lions.  Grieving   
   since they cannot succeed in these efforts.   
      
   Perhaps not happier, but not subject to the consequences of   
   destructive successes.   
      
   >In the morning full of energy, life is good. After a nap,   
   >my energy is not as great and takes a while to return.   
      
   >Some days are better than others.   
   >With no plans and nothing to do, my joy is high.   
   >Having things to do, responsibilities and obligations, not so much.   
   >   
   >>These days, humans know that ecosystems can be harmed, can die.  And   
   >>we know (some of us know) that humans in their billions can cause   
   >>that.   
   >   
   >Did ancient people sweep their dirt floors clean.   
      
   Probably not so much, since they had not learned the modern obsession   
   with cleanliness.   
      
   >Did they know what it means to be high-tech or low-tech.   
      
   Hemp broom instead of straw?  I'm sure they were not overwhelmed by   
   that.   
      
   >Did children play without a care. Without concern for the future.   
      
   As they do now.   
      
   >>So it is time to choose.  Do humans forget it all, mumbling about   
   >>non-material wisdom.  Or do they forget it all, mumbling about the   
   >>most luxurious way to ride to work?  Or do they do something about   
   >>dying ecosystems?   
   >   
   >When ocean levels rise, people on the coasts move inside the land   
   >where they land for a spell until another option is available.   
   >When weather is rough they batten down hatches.   
   >   
   >Some may try to stem the tide.   
   >Some will go along for the ride.   
   >   
   >In a short run, with less carbon spewed by them,   
   >they may feel proud of an accomplishment. Then the ice, sheets   
   >of glaciers moving down from the poles will consume cities   
   >to a far north or south and they'll wonder, gee, it may   
   >be global warming wasn't such a bad idea.   
      
   You assume that ecosystems will fluctuate as before and not die.   
      
   >>>Naturally natural oar did they sew it seams.   
   >>>Weaving and boating, fishing rivers and lands   
   >>>were vast, unencumbered by cities full of cars.   
   >>   
   >>There seeming to be no way to go back to vast rivers and lands.   
   >   
   >After the next period of glaciation, when cities are razed   
   >and people are amazed at how little control they had,   
   >vast rivers and lands will return, naturally.   
      
   This is your dream.  Rest in that.  Perhaps it might sorta maybe come   
   true.   
      
   >>>Dreamers dream of a scene seen in the future   
   >>>when all beings are at peace, one imagines.   
   >>>   
   >>>Countries, religions and competitions exist   
   >>>without being too serious, knowing how,   
   >>>why and what limits are. People agree   
   >>>to play with and against each other.   
   >>   
   >>It is not enough to dream.   
   >   
   >Nature knows how to take its own course.   
   >Of course, some people feel as if they are   
   >not natural in their own species-doing.   
   >   
   >When grasses grow and wabbits multiply,   
   >seasons change and wolves run in packs.   
   >   
   >When the ice returns, a great crowd of   
   >animated forms of Life might be found   
   >round an imaginary line, the equator.   
   >   
   >- for a spell ...   
   --   
   Noah Sombrero   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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