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   rt.schizophrenia   
   From: fedora@fea.st   
      
   On Sat, 17 Jul 2021 06:02:19 -0700, one  wrote:   
      
   >Noah wrote:   
   >> one wrote:   
   >   
   >>>Growing old, some Taoists were alone. Hermits. Reclusive   
   >>>ones among the many who were philosophically amusing.   
   >>   
   >>Not caring for children having no wives, does not mean that their   
   >>perspective was superior to those who have such   
   >   
   >When Chuang-tzu's wife died, his friend, Huizi, found him, Zz   
   >banging on pots and pans and having a great time.   
   >How could you, Huizi asked. She was the   
   >mother of your kids. Why are you   
   >not mourning, grieving, etc.   
   >   
   >Zz explained his philosophy,   
   >given: a Daoist tale.   
      
   Which does not mean there was no joy in it for him.  There is also the   
   story of the master whose son died.  The master weeps inconsolably.   
   But didn't you tell us that all is illusion, his students ask.  Yes,   
   the master says, but he was such a beautiful illusion.   
      
   It might be that these stories are more to make a point than a   
   recounting of actual events.   
      
   >>>Confucians took life more serious. Rules, regulations, rites   
   >>>and music to be played lost their joy of playing simply   
   >>>to play for a time being too serious, naturally.   
   >>   
   >>Wives and children do not loose their joy making if played well.   
   >   
   >A point was how rules and regulations may confuse   
   >one's innate or natural inclinations. Freedom can be   
   >a point of interest. How to be and/or stay free.   
      
   There will be no joy in your family relations if they are a matter of   
   rules and regulations for you.   
      
   >Taoism contrasts with Confucianism.   
   >Buddhism contrasts with Hinduism in a Way.   
   >   
   >To suppose there is a self, an individual entity who   
   >reincarnates on the Wheel of Eighty-four, samsara may   
   >be problematic for some minds. No escape for those then.   
   >   
   >Yet without a permanent self, problem solved.   
   >While a body, be it a wife or a child, is born, dies   
   >and might be viewed as a reincarnation of a sort,   
   >without a self, a paradigm shifts. Shapes vary.   
      
   But it might be ok to mourn the beautiful illusion.   
      
   >>>>>Lines, planes, dimensions vary.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>If they can be proven.   
   >>>   
   >>>Axoims tend to be taken for granted.   
   >>   
   >>1 is 1 must be granted.  1+1 is 2 must be granted.  Not great leaps   
   >>into mystery.  They make useful foundations for things that humans   
   >>need to do.   
   >   
   >Aye. Counting on counting numbers, natural numbers   
   >might make for a ruler, naturally, given a count of sorts.   
   >   
   >... snip ...   
   >   
   >>  Living life is driven by entropy.  When   
   >>that life dies, entropy drops away, but is still enough for other   
   >>forms to benefit from.  Like trees.   
   >   
   >Thanks for sharing your understanding. You say,   
   >entropy drops away. I may say, entropy increases.   
   >   
   >>>When a body decays, its entropy increases.   
   >   
   >- thanks again!   
   --   
   Noah Sombrero   
      
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