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   rt.schizophrenia   
   From: fedora@fea.st   
      
   On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:40:53 +0200, Venus as a Boy   
    wrote:   
      
   >Am 21.07.2021 um 19:29 schrieb Venus as a Boy:   
   >> Am 21.07.2021 um 19:17 schrieb Noah Sombrero:   
   >>>   
   >>> It is also true that you need the background and the evaluative tools   
   >>> and the math skills you get at university to decide what to believe.   
   >>   
   >> So believe needs math?   
   >>   
   >>> You can't simply step up to scientific research without that and   
   >>> expect to know what's what.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> You are actually saying that i can't think properly because i didn't   
   >> visit a university and with a non-univerity mind you can't think about   
   >> univerity problems!   
   >>   
   >   
   >Would you be surprised if i tell you that i actually studied, though you   
   >shouldn't be as i mentioned that in a rant somewhere!   
      
   Excellent.  So what degree do you have?  MA, MS, PHD?  Probably they   
   call them something else in germany.   
      
   >So i actually have   
   >such a university mind as you want me to have to understand or think   
   >about such things, but in my opinion you don't need to go to university   
   >to be able to think about scientific problems   
      
   Think effectively.  Understand scientific literature.   
      
   >just look at some   
   >inventors that never seen an university from inside.   
      
   True, Henry Ford didn't need a scientific education to built a car.   
   But in 2021, you need to learn automotive engineering to build a car,   
   to build a bridge you need civil engineering.  That is, if your cars   
   are to be sold around the world or cars are to be driven across   
   bridges you might build.   
      
   >My teachers oftentimes told me the most important thing you need to   
   >learn in university is to find informations may it be in others studies   
   >or your own!   
      
   I heard that.  An educated person is someone who, if they need to know   
   something, knows where to find it.  That is the BA, BS level, does not   
   include the "knows what it all means" level.   
      
   >Nowadays and especially bc of the lack of access to science facilities i   
   >retreat on finding info!   
      
   --   
   Noah Sombrero   
      
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