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   rt.schizophrenia   
   From: fedora@fea.st   
      
   On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 19:51:32 +0200, Venus as a Boy   
    wrote:   
      
   >Am 21.07.2021 um 19:38 schrieb Noah Sombrero:   
   >>> So believe needs math?   
   >>   
   >> Believing needs nothing.  Knowing what to believe requires math if you   
   >> are reading scientific literature.   
   >>   
   >You should be cleare in your expressions! It's not believe that needs   
   >math but knowledge, methinks there's a difference!   
      
   Most often, even in psychology, conclusions in scientific literature   
   are based on math.  Perhaps nothing more than probability theory. They   
   ask "how likely, how reliable is this conclusion within certain   
   limits"?  If you can't understand the math, you can't evaluate the   
   conclusion.   
      
   >> You can be rational if you decide to do that.  That does not mean you   
   >> have the tools to evaluate scientific literature.   
   >>   
   >   
   >mind or something like common sense? you say i don't have that?   
      
   One thing I learned in university is how often common sense does not   
   apply to what turns out to be true.  The universe is not obligated to   
   make sense to you, as somebody or other said.  In fact, you can be   
   sure it won't if you look very far.   
      
   >>   
   >> Yes, right now, neither of us has the tools to know what that all   
   >> means.   
   >>   
   >   
   >see above   
   >   
   >>   
   >> To suit whatever point they want to make.  Politicians plagiarizing   
   >> other scientists.  Are the politicians or scientists?   
   >>   
   >   
   >That maybe new to an american but most politicians in germany have a   
   >university education and somekind of normal degree some have even a   
   >doctors degree!   
      
   Such people are usually not electable in the US, or even in canada.   
   Germany is fortunate.  But if german politicians dig up questionable   
   research to support what they want you to believe, not so fortunate.   
   --   
   Noah Sombrero   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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