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   chris rodgers to All   
   Re: how's that free will been workin' fo   
   31 Jul 21 16:04:06   
   
   From: allreadydun@gmail.com   
      
   > ### - it's not difficult, because there's nada to refute haha :)))   
      
   so how's that free will been workin' for ya then?   
   No answer to the question?   
      
   > i.e., both day & night exist, even though they are the complete opposite   
   > of each other and therefore incompatible...   
      
   they are not complete opposite.   Geezus.   
      
   > iow: it's a false premise to suggest they're incompatible when, in   
   > reality, they are actually both only part of the same thing albeit   
   > seen/viewed from different/partial perspectives only! day & night only   
   > 'appear' to be a contradiction/paradox but aren't; they're just the 2   
   > sides of the same one coin :)   
      
   blah blah blah,  what is this demo talk?   You been listening to bozo Biden   
   again ?   
      
   > freewill and determinism are therefore not incompatible at all and are   
   > similarly just part of the same one thing albeit seen/viewed from some   
   > kinda partial pov that creates the false premise that they're separate   
   > items...   
      
   they are two separate items.   
      
   > it's a simple enough idea, so then the solution is equally simple: ya   
   > simply remove the 'I' from the equation and the problem goes away because   
   > the 'question' never exists in the first place hah!   
      
   new age bypass work?   wtf?   
      
   > i.e., take the 'I' out of everything and ya don't even have to 'ask' the   
   > question because the question, which doesn't then exist, doesn't ever   
   > arise! :)   
      
   Christ your truck broke down out in right field somewhere.   
   get back in the game dufus.   
      
   > perforce in resolving this problem this leaves a person in a kind of   
   > zen-state wherein 'I' doesn't ever enter into anything, false/fake   
   > intellectual concepts like free will disappear altogether and the question   
   > then never arises because other, more real, things come to the fore   
   > instead: such as acting more in harmony with the world around us instead   
   > of being intellectually separated from it by indulging in this concept of   
   > there being an 'I' who can (albeit only in its imagination) seemingly act   
   > apart from everything else via indulging in a purely intellectual +   
   > separated sense of 'I'   
      
   i think you listened to too much Allan Watts or something.   
   zen shmen,  do you have free choice or don't you?   
      
   > no 'I', no problem, no bs ;)   
      
   you either have a free choice or you don't.   
   and not choosing is also a choice,  so you can't weasel out here zen boy.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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