From: slider@anashram.com   
      
   > i think you listened to too much Allan Watts or something.   
   > zen shmen,  do you have free choice or don't you?   
      
   ### - but have already answered your question heh :)))   
      
      
      
   >> no 'I', no problem, no bs   
      
   > you either have a free choice or you don't.   
      
   ### - an either/or solution being the only illusion here: is/was my whole   
   point... an intellectual game we play with ourselves that only exists in   
   our heads, a game created by this sense of 'I' that conceptually holds   
   itself apart from everything else thus making it 'seem' like we have a   
   choice where no choice actually exists... (do you remember buying tickets   
   to come here?? no of course not! no free choice on your part was ever   
   involved...)   
      
      
   > and not choosing is also a choice, so you can't weasel out here zen boy.   
      
   ### - 'I' is the only weasel (and illusion) around here matey, which is   
   what zen is ultimately all about: the absence of 'I' and the resulting   
   completely different perception of the world there being no 'I' results   
   in...   
      
   i.e., thinking in terms of 'I' gives rise to a particular knowledge-set   
   and way of thinking, whereas the lack of 'I' gives rise to a completely   
   different knowledge set not at all based on rationales, conceptualisations   
   and/or rationalisations...   
      
   and THAT's the answer ;)   
      
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