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   From: fedora@fea.st   
      
   On Mon, 06 Sep 2021 04:09:07 -0700, one  wrote:   
      
   >o'Mahoney wrote:   
   >>Noah wrote:   
   >>>o'Mahoney wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>Before you begin training in   
   >>>>enlightenment, a bowl is a bowl   
   >>>>and tea is tea. During training,   
   >>>>a bowl is not a bowl, and tea is   
   >>>>not tea. After training in enlightenment,   
   >>>>a bowl is a bowl   
   >>>>and tea is tea.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Zen Epigram   
   >>>   
   >>>Is zen a philosophy?   
   >>   
   >>If you have to ask...   
   >   
   >When people from near an edge west   
   >on a huge land mass went to a near edge of   
   >the very same land mass before hopping on over   
   >to land on a land they eyed across a strait or a sea,   
   >they took their names, philosophy and religion and   
   >saw phenomena going on there, in the east.   
   >   
   >Dhyana from India had already taken root in a land   
   >which Bodhidharma found fertile enough and there   
   >a form formed known as Channa or Chan after it   
   >got filtered through the Chuang-tzu aka Tao Chia.   
   >   
   >Apparently the Chia, aka, Schools of Thought, in   
   >what could be thought to be China today yet was not   
   >during the daze when confused historians decided to create   
   >and discriminate folk-religion from the 100 Schools as they   
   >saw fit, being scholars of history at the time.   
   >   
   >When blended, almost 1,000 years after the Tao Chia   
   >or Tao-School of Thought was created by historians of   
   >the so-called Han Dynasty, and after Chan moved on   
   >and found or took root on an island to eye that land   
   >through eyes of Zen, could be said to have bin done.   
   >   
   >Some modern scholars may contest there never was,   
   >in the practice of regular people a division of what are   
   >called and known as philosophy and religion, ever.   
   >   
   >Yet if one were to tell that to Han historians they   
   >may differ and see the 100 Schools as being philosophy   
   >as much as any other schools of thought were and arghh.   
   >   
   >- for the time beings ... Cheers!   
      
   Even that much is already more philosophy than the world needs.   
   --   
   Noah Sombrero   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)