From: slider@anashram.com   
      
   On Sat, 18 Sep 2021 01:58:30 +0100, o'Mahoney    
   wrote:   
      
   > On Fri, 17 Sep 2021 13:50:56 +0100, slider    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> ### - well here we go, let's see what's happenin' in the old 'Wallyworld   
   >> Herald Gazette today hehe ;)   
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   >> PARIS -France accused U.S. President Joe Biden on Thursday of stabbing   
   >> it   
   >> in the back and acting like his predecessor Donald Trump after Paris was   
   >> pushed aside from a historic defence export contract to supply Australia   
   >> with submarines.   
   >>   
   >> The United States, Britain and Australia announced they would establish   
   >> a   
   >> security partnership for the Indo-Pacific that will help Australia   
   >> acquire   
   >> U.S. nuclear-powered submarines and scrap the $40 billion   
   >> French-designed   
   >> submarine deal.   
   >>   
   >> “This brutal, unilateral and unpredictable decision reminds me a lot of   
   >> what Mr Trump used to do,” Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian told   
   >> franceinfo radio. “I am angry and bitter. This isn’t done between   
   >> allies.”   
   >>   
   >> It is the latest dramatic twist in a contest that has seen naval   
   >> shipbuilding powers battle for years over what many observers called the   
   >> world’s largest single arms export deal.   
   >>   
   >> In 2016, Australia had selected French shipbuilder Naval Group to build   
   >> a   
   >> new submarine fleet worth $40 billion to replace its more than   
   >> two-decades-old Collins submarines.   
   >>   
   >> Just two weeks ago, the Australian defence and foreign ministers had   
   >> reconfirmed the deal to France, and French President Emmanuel Macron   
   >> lauded decades of future cooperation when hosting Australian Prime   
   >> Minister Scott Morrison in June.   
   >>   
   >> “It’s a stab in the back. We created a relationship of trust with   
   >> Australia and that trust has been broken,” Le Drian said.   
   >>   
   >> French relations with the United States soured during the presidency of   
   >> Trump, who often irritated European allies by demanding they increase   
   >> their defence spending to help NATO while reaching out to adversaries   
   >> like   
   >> Russia and North Korea.   
   >>   
   >> Diplomats say there have been concerns in recent months that Biden is   
   >> not   
   >> being forthright with his European allies.   
   >>   
   >> The French Embassy in Washington said it was cancelling a gala event   
   >> related to French-U.S. ties on Friday following the day’s events.   
   >>   
   >> France’s ties with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson have also soured   
   >> over the UK’s exit from the European Union.   
   >>   
   >> Washington’s actions in Australia are likely to further strain   
   >> transatlantic ties, political analysts said. The European Union was due   
   >> to   
   >> roll out its Indo-Pacific strategy on Thursday and Paris is poised to   
   >> take   
   >> on the EU presidency.   
   >>   
   >> “This is a clap of thunder and for many in Paris a Trafalgar moment,”   
   >> Bruno Tertrais, Deputy Director of the Paris-based think tank the   
   >> Foundation of Strategic Research said on Twitter, referring to a French   
   >> naval defeat in 1805 that was followed by a long period of British naval   
   >> supremacy.   
   >>   
   >> He said it would “complicate the transatlantic cooperation in and about   
   >> the region. Beijing will benefit.”   
   >>   
   >> U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken on Thursday said France was a   
   >> “vital partner” in the Indo-Pacific region and that Washington would   
   >> continue to cooperate with Paris, comments that appeared aimed at   
   >> calming   
   >> French anger.   
   >>   
   >> Those comments are likely to fall on deaf ears in the immediate term.   
   >>   
   >> A French official said they had not been informed of the deal until a   
   >> few   
   >> hours before it was announced and that Paris would not fooled by   
   >> platitudes.   
   >>   
   >> Morrison said Australia looked forward to continuing to work “closely   
   >> and   
   >> positively” with France, adding: “France is a key friend and partner to   
   >> Australia and the Indo-Pacific.”   
   >>   
   >> ‘JAW-DROPPING‘   
   >>   
   >> It is the second setback to French defence exports in three months after   
   >> Switzerland spurned Dassault’s Rafale to buy U.S.-made Lockheed Martin   
   >> F-35 fighters.   
   >>   
   >> Analysts said the loss of the much bigger submarine contract was a   
   >> significant blow to France, whose experienced arms sales machine had   
   >> gone   
   >> all out to wrest the submarine deal from likely winner Japan under then   
   >> defence minister Le Drian in 2016.   
   >>   
   >> Germany had also been in the race.   
   >>   
   >> The 2016 win came a decade after France radically overhauled the way it   
   >> handled arms sales following Paris’ embarrassment over the loss of a   
   >> contest to sell fighters to Morocco.   
   >>   
   >> Word of its cancellation dominated Europe’s largest arms fair in London   
   >> where one delegate called it “jaw-dropping”.   
   >>   
   >> France’s Thales, which analysts say stood to gain about $1 billion from   
   >> sales of sonars and optronics – the eyes and ears of the French   
   >> submarines   
   >> – swiftly reassured investors its 2021 finances would not be hit.   
   >>   
   >> But some analysts warned France’s furious reaction over the Australian   
   >> contract could backfire and noted there had been reports of Australian   
   >> doubts over the pace of implementation.   
   >>   
   >> Thales, which owns 35% of Naval Group, remains Australia’s biggest local   
   >> defence contractor through a subsidiary.   
   >>   
   >> “Betrayal is the wrong language and hurts France’s position in   
   >> Australia;   
   >> it can poison the well,” said UK-based defence analyst Francis Tusa,   
   >> adding France would now be more reliant on selling Rafales to secure its   
   >> place in the global arms market.   
   >>   
   >> ### - oh dear oh dear, trumpy becoming a byword these days in cut-throat   
   >> 'unpleasantness' in this part of the world... and well yes, was a bit   
   >> naive of france to think the uk was just gonna SIT there letting a big   
   >> FAT   
   >> 40-fucking BILLION! contract pass them by like that? are ya fuckin' NUTS   
   >> or wot?? lol, as IF!? huge sharks were all in the water circling for a   
   >> feast of THAT nature!   
   >>   
   >> but it's nada ah personal france (cough-cough) it's just, erm, business,   
   >> right? (sarcasm heh)   
   >>   
   >> besides, we're on our own here now and you still have the back-up of the   
   >> european union to bail ya's ass out of a sling if'n ya's ever gets into   
   >> trouble innit, a luxury we no longer enjoy after brexit, so what did ya   
   >> really expect then when it comes to pullin-off a deal behind the scenes   
   >> of   
   >> THAT magnitude huh? lol we fuckin' 'invented' australia ya cunt! did   
   >> ya's   
   >> really think we don't still have some connections there?? well duh! (all   
   >> the nobs in their private clubs tap their brandy glasses in jovial   
   >> grinning agreement, and then stand to toast in unison: *As IF!*   
   >> hahaha...)   
   >>   
      
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