From: slider@anashram.com   
      
   > what happens if one surrenders all the way?   
   > i don't mean quitting or stopping or laying down and dying.   
   > i mean just surrender to the ultimate power (whatever that might be)   
   > i have no idea what that is,  i don't know who or what i would be   
   > referring to.  Obviously there are things way bigger than us.   
   > I don't want to bring religion or spiritually mumbo jumbo in to this.   
   > Those things can stay where they are.   I don't have a problem with them.   
   > Is it possible to let go all the way and surrender yourself completely   
   > without any reservations?     I'm giving it a try everynight to see where   
   > this goes,  i have no idea what might or will happen.    I'm not holding   
   > on to anything, i let go all the way.    The dream has to be pure.   
      
   ### - no need to make such a 'big' deal about it lol...   
      
   more simply just sit and 'Be' for about 30 minutes at a time whenever you   
   remember to do it, is plenty (and more sane haha)   
      
   first thing in the morning is good ('before' easting/drinking any   
   breakfast) as it sets/lasts the rest of the day + helps becomes a routine   
   to 'remember' to do it coz you're gonna need about a month at least...   
      
   i.e., random thoughts will arise whilst trying, you're sitting there one   
   moment thinking nada and just being and the next there's some   
   dialogue/story going-on... pause at that point and examine it, ask   
   yourself what that thought is about, is it just gossip/shit about nada   
   really or has it some deeper theme to it? if it's just average mind-shit   
   then realise/recongise that and dismiss it (recognising it as such   
   dismisses it) and return again to just sitting and being, if otoh it's got   
   any substance to it (it's a cool idea) then make a mental note to come   
   back to it later and then return to just sitting and being... either way,   
   30 minutes of that is plenty   
      
   this btw, is a type of ancient zen meditation that promotes a kind of   
   inner-silence...   
      
   that what you're aiming for via this is something very subtle, comparable   
   to the subtle difference in awareness between say you 'actually' washing   
   some dishes, versus 'observing' yourself washing them... which, when you   
   examine it, is actually 2 very different persons or modes, the latter   
   being kinda silent...   
      
   to 'surrender' in that sense, is to allow that 'other' person or mode (the   
   'observer') to come forward some and then to eventually take-over, which   
   is does all by itself when it's grown enough...   
      
   it's very simple really... sit the fuck down sometimes and just... 'Be'   
      
   :)   
      
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