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   Re: confirmation/validation? absolutely!   
   20 Mar 22 09:00:40   
   
   From: slider@anashram.com   
      
   ### - (smile) just arrived back to this cool comment on the videos, and   
   about WILDing in general:   
      
   Waseem Sultan Commented On The Youtube Videos: 20th March 2022   
   I have to say was slightly sceptical at first, but after a week of   
   practice and also trying to embed myself into the hypnogogia (by trying to   
   really feel that I am in whatever scene appears) i had my first WILD! It   
   was Insane because it just felt like I had woken up at first, I was in my   
   bedroom everything seemed normal but then I did a reality test by pinching   
   my nose and I could breathe! I was like wtf this is insane. Was quickly   
   booted back to 'reality' after a little bit of flying but it was amazing.   
   This all happened at the beginning of the night so I agree that science   
   must be missing a piece of the puzzle re sleep cycles   
      
   ***   
      
   which basically means/implies that: even after only a week in some cases,   
   anyone persisting with the technique is fairly likely to bump into a full   
   WILD and thus be left scratching their heads too as to: how can this be??   
      
   and the answer's actually fairly simple & straightforward:   
      
   the state of WILDing easily occurs because it's something 'everyone'   
   already uses every day anyway without fail, albeit completely   
   unconsciously in a process we've all learned to instead call: falling   
   asleep... scratch the surface of that though and there's a WILDer   
   underneath every time :)   
      
   the simplest explanation being that: there's actually TWO options   
   available upon activating that sleep-system: in the one we enter into that   
   state completely unconsciously, and in the other: consciously, and that's   
   it!   
      
   the 'choice' has ALWAYS been ours only no one ever told us about the   
   second option!?   
      
   quite the opposite actually, in that any deviation to passing into   
   so-called 'normal' (i.e., unconscious) sleep was always actively   
   discouraged, the person concerned (usually as a child) being repeatedly   
   told that it was just a bad dream and to forget about it, the total   
   emphasis always being quite deliberately placed upon the 'unconscious'   
   option until that was what they eventually achieved!   
      
   iow: from a very early age we've apparently learned to continually   
   'suppress' this second option, until to all extents & purposes it finally   
   stopped appearing altogether and unconscious sleep became the accepted +   
   expected norm!   
      
   we 'expect' to fall fast asleep... and so, with continual practice, we do!   
      
   have/hold a 'different' expectation, however, and something rather amazing   
   emerges...   
      
   a whole new area of activity that people only ever vaguely suspected   
   existed but which has actually been right at their fingertips all the time   
   just for the asking/accepting, albeit they've just always unconsciously   
   held it at-bay!   
      
   our friend's (waseem) world-view being literally knocked for a loop after   
   being confronted with irrefutable proof that the information re   
   sleep-cycles he'd previously absorbed/accepted, and that were so   
   convincing, was thus obviously incomplete thus his be-WILD-ered (heh) &   
   bemused: wft-moment heh :))))   
      
   that said (that 'advancement' noted...) can see they's paradoxically just   
   about to blow the whole goddamn place to smithereens lol... (images of   
   parts of ukraine now looking like Aleppo=shades of what everywhere's gonna   
   look like TOO if'n they don't quickly pull the plug on all this crap!?   
   damn them all to hell!)   
      
   meaning: can we please now have some intelligent DIALOGUE between the   
   parties instead of just: hate-campaigns???   
      
   coz ya's KNOW for sure where 'hate' leads to innit: it leads to anger!   
      
   and anger leads to?   
      
   well, on this planet anyway, anger always leads to everyone kicking the   
   shit outta each other with bigger & bigger sticks lol...   
      
   so ffs PACK IT IN!!!!   
      
   i.e., no dialogue=continual escalation... until?   
      
   until there's no one left to fucking argue!   
      
   until EVERYWHERE looks like freaking ALEPPO!!!   
      
   coz THAT's what we're dealing with here!   
      
   and now (if you're feelin' lucky, punk) we've ALL gots to ask ourselves   
   just one question:   
      
   do we WANT to live??   
      
   THAT'S the FIRST and most important question!   
      
   after which we can THEN ask: what has to change (about ourselves) so we   
   CAN all live!   
      
   this being 'precisely' the same situation they faced in south africa that   
   time, the context differed but the threat of mutual annihilation was   
   exactly the same!   
      
   as a nation they had finally reached the point of no return that their   
   whole system had inevitably led them to! just as OURS has today!!!   
      
   and amazingly (not to mention rather surprisingly) they chose to... live!?   
      
   EVEN if that meant fundamentally changing their whole system? (wow)   
      
   they did it anyway, went against ALL their former principles & beliefs and   
   are alive to this day because of their last-moment decision TO live!   
      
   and now it's OUR turn to choose huh...   
      
   do we WANNA live or not?   
      
   change nada and we KNOW what's gonna continue to happen, what's already   
   been set in-motion!   
      
   or... we ALL get round the TABLE and hammer out some NEW deal that allows   
   us ALL to... LIVE!   
      
   perforce there'll be winners & losers in such a big change, change isn't   
   easy for anyone, but we'll ALL just have to grunt and bear it until we get   
   USED to living in some more straightforward way, some multicultural   
   world-society that doesn't always inevitably lead to war because   
   'everyone' gets a fair/equal share!   
      
   yes it's gonna be a LOT of work! a LOT of hard work!   
      
   but such work is still better than being... dead??   
      
   and coz we're literally writing the future now with every passing hour...   
      
   so choose already!   
      
   choose to live :)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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