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|    Re: confirmation/validation? absolutely!    |
|    20 Mar 22 09:00:40    |
      From: slider@anashram.com              ### - (smile) just arrived back to this cool comment on the videos, and       about WILDing in general:              Waseem Sultan Commented On The Youtube Videos: 20th March 2022       I have to say was slightly sceptical at first, but after a week of       practice and also trying to embed myself into the hypnogogia (by trying to       really feel that I am in whatever scene appears) i had my first WILD! It       was Insane because it just felt like I had woken up at first, I was in my       bedroom everything seemed normal but then I did a reality test by pinching       my nose and I could breathe! I was like wtf this is insane. Was quickly       booted back to 'reality' after a little bit of flying but it was amazing.       This all happened at the beginning of the night so I agree that science       must be missing a piece of the puzzle re sleep cycles              ***              which basically means/implies that: even after only a week in some cases,       anyone persisting with the technique is fairly likely to bump into a full       WILD and thus be left scratching their heads too as to: how can this be??              and the answer's actually fairly simple & straightforward:              the state of WILDing easily occurs because it's something 'everyone'       already uses every day anyway without fail, albeit completely       unconsciously in a process we've all learned to instead call: falling       asleep... scratch the surface of that though and there's a WILDer       underneath every time :)              the simplest explanation being that: there's actually TWO options       available upon activating that sleep-system: in the one we enter into that       state completely unconsciously, and in the other: consciously, and that's       it!              the 'choice' has ALWAYS been ours only no one ever told us about the       second option!?              quite the opposite actually, in that any deviation to passing into       so-called 'normal' (i.e., unconscious) sleep was always actively       discouraged, the person concerned (usually as a child) being repeatedly       told that it was just a bad dream and to forget about it, the total       emphasis always being quite deliberately placed upon the 'unconscious'       option until that was what they eventually achieved!              iow: from a very early age we've apparently learned to continually       'suppress' this second option, until to all extents & purposes it finally       stopped appearing altogether and unconscious sleep became the accepted +       expected norm!              we 'expect' to fall fast asleep... and so, with continual practice, we do!              have/hold a 'different' expectation, however, and something rather amazing       emerges...              a whole new area of activity that people only ever vaguely suspected       existed but which has actually been right at their fingertips all the time       just for the asking/accepting, albeit they've just always unconsciously       held it at-bay!              our friend's (waseem) world-view being literally knocked for a loop after       being confronted with irrefutable proof that the information re       sleep-cycles he'd previously absorbed/accepted, and that were so       convincing, was thus obviously incomplete thus his be-WILD-ered (heh) &       bemused: wft-moment heh :))))              that said (that 'advancement' noted...) can see they's paradoxically just       about to blow the whole goddamn place to smithereens lol... (images of       parts of ukraine now looking like Aleppo=shades of what everywhere's gonna       look like TOO if'n they don't quickly pull the plug on all this crap!?       damn them all to hell!)              meaning: can we please now have some intelligent DIALOGUE between the       parties instead of just: hate-campaigns???              coz ya's KNOW for sure where 'hate' leads to innit: it leads to anger!              and anger leads to?              well, on this planet anyway, anger always leads to everyone kicking the       shit outta each other with bigger & bigger sticks lol...              so ffs PACK IT IN!!!!              i.e., no dialogue=continual escalation... until?              until there's no one left to fucking argue!              until EVERYWHERE looks like freaking ALEPPO!!!              coz THAT's what we're dealing with here!              and now (if you're feelin' lucky, punk) we've ALL gots to ask ourselves       just one question:              do we WANT to live??              THAT'S the FIRST and most important question!              after which we can THEN ask: what has to change (about ourselves) so we       CAN all live!              this being 'precisely' the same situation they faced in south africa that       time, the context differed but the threat of mutual annihilation was       exactly the same!              as a nation they had finally reached the point of no return that their       whole system had inevitably led them to! just as OURS has today!!!              and amazingly (not to mention rather surprisingly) they chose to... live!?              EVEN if that meant fundamentally changing their whole system? (wow)              they did it anyway, went against ALL their former principles & beliefs and       are alive to this day because of their last-moment decision TO live!              and now it's OUR turn to choose huh...              do we WANNA live or not?              change nada and we KNOW what's gonna continue to happen, what's already       been set in-motion!              or... we ALL get round the TABLE and hammer out some NEW deal that allows       us ALL to... LIVE!              perforce there'll be winners & losers in such a big change, change isn't       easy for anyone, but we'll ALL just have to grunt and bear it until we get       USED to living in some more straightforward way, some multicultural       world-society that doesn't always inevitably lead to war because       'everyone' gets a fair/equal share!              yes it's gonna be a LOT of work! a LOT of hard work!              but such work is still better than being... dead??              and coz we're literally writing the future now with every passing hour...              so choose already!              choose to live :)              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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