From: libertidad@south.south.com   
      
   Sounds like more appeasement bullshit like the Jew Kissinger, the   
   antiquated old fossil.  Time to die you old cunt.   
      
   The only outcome of the Volodomyr and Vladimyr show must be for full   
   land reclaimation by Ukraine, Donbass and Crimea.  Therefore, Biden   
   must provide Reaper UAV's, Harpoons, MI tanks, MLRS and F16's through   
   to F35's.   
      
   Why not?  Fuck Russia, full of vodka soaked cunts with short lifespans   
   in any case, make them shorter.   
      
   Go go go USA, all the way.  Shed American blood too, those Marines   
   know how to die.   
      
      
      
   On Sat, 21 May 2022 22:19:33 +0100, slider    
   wrote:   
      
   >It’s easy to understand why some would think bringing Sweden and Finland   
   >into NATO is a good idea. It would serve Putin right to have his illegal,   
   >immoral, and unjustified invasion of Ukraine end up more than doubling   
   >Russia’s border with NATO. It would reflect what appears to be the   
   >majority sentiment in Finland and a growing majority of Swedes. Both   
   >countries have “first-rate” military capabilities as well as strong   
   >democratic traditions, which would bolster NATO’s power and reputation.   
   >   
   >But the desire to humiliate Putin and reinforce U.S. global military   
   >dominance is shortsighted and dangerous. It risks escalating, expanding,   
   >and prolonging the war in Ukraine. It will vastly increase the probability   
   >of a nuclear exchange, which could easily spiral into a global holocaust.   
   >The U.S. Senate — which by a two-thirds majority must give its advice and   
   >consent to the ratification of protocols adding new members to the   
   >alliance — should think hard before rubber-stamping the admission of new   
   >candidates.   
   >   
   >Escalating, expanding, prolonging the war in Ukraine   
   >   
   >The highest priority of the United States should be to bring this war to a   
   >swift conclusion through an immediate ceasefire and a negotiated   
   >settlement that is fair and durable.   
   >   
   >Yet the Biden administration — under pressure from Congress and the   
   >foreign policy establishment — has only ratcheted up its war aims, from   
   >containing Russia to crushing it.  Following a high-level visit to   
   >Ukraine, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin described the U.S. goal as seeing   
   >“Russia weakened to the degree it cannot do the kinds of things it has   
   >done in invading Ukraine,” while Democratic leaders called for an outright   
   >military “victory”.   
   >   
   >The deepening U.S. involvement is not mere rhetoric; the United States has   
   >now admitted to providing operational intelligence that Ukrainian forces   
   >used to target and kill Russian generals as well as to sink Russia’s   
   >prized warship. Deliveries of increasingly heavy and sophisticated arms   
   > from the United States and its allies have gone beyond allowing Ukrainian   
   >President Volodymyr Zelensky to defend his country; they have emboldened   
   >him to vastly expand his demands for entering peace talks. Whereas he had   
   >earlier indicated significant flexibility on the Donbas, Zelensky is now   
   >demanding “a restoration of preinvasion borders, the return of more than 5   
   >million refugees, membership in the European Union, and accountability   
   > from Russian military leaders.”   
   >   
   >In this environment, pressing NATO up against Russia’s doorstep is a   
   >provocation that will only raise the stakes in the Ukraine war and make it   
   >more difficult for Putin to back down. It was a mistake to incorporate the   
   >former Warsaw Pact countries into NATO after the end of the Cold War, as   
   >many leading analysts and policymakers argued at the time, and it   
   >ultimately served to reinforce Russia’s sense of isolation and   
   >encirclement.   
   >   
   >Indeed, Ukraine’s desire to join NATO and its receipt of arms and training   
   > from the United States were certainly key factors in Putin’s decision to   
   >invade. Expanding NATO now will raise the stakes for Putin in a way that   
   >virtually guarantees the war will drag on longer and increases the chances   
   >it will expand beyond Ukraine’s borders.   
   >   
   >Setting back prospects for peace in Europe   
   >   
   >Saying “yes” to Finland and Sweden will make it far more difficult to say   
   >“no” to Ukraine. More importantly, Finnish and Swedish accession to NATO   
   >could end up destabilizing Europe rather than protecting it. Neither   
   >country faced a serious threat from Russia before this crisis, but the   
   >arms bonanza that will inevitably result from their incorporation into   
   >NATO could create incentives for Russia to push back. The war has already   
   >provided a huge boon for defense contractors, as pressure ramps up to   
   >modernize and improve the interoperability of systems and flush out the   
   >last remaining Russian military equipment.   
   >   
   >What Europe needs is not a redrawing of Cold War boundaries and the   
   >creation of a larger NATO footprint, but a new architecture of security   
   >and economic institutions that all European countries, including Russia,   
   >can eventually join.   
   >   
   >Raising nuclear risks   
   >   
   >The world has been rightly aghast at Russian threats to use nuclear   
   >weapons if its existence is jeopardized, although the United States has   
   >also refused to rule out the first use of nuclear weapons. Given the   
   >danger that even a single tactical nuclear weapon could cause calamitous   
   >damage and quickly escalate into a full-scale nuclear exchange, keeping   
   >the war in Ukraine from turning nuclear ought to be a central objective of   
   >U.S. and NATO military planners. Which begs the question: how does   
   >expanding NATO advance that objective?   
   >   
   >Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines testified that Putin might   
   >turn to nuclear weapons if he believed he was losing the war in Ukraine,   
   >especially if NATO were to intervene. Confoundingly, a “resounding   
   >military defeat” is exactly what some U.S. senators are goading the   
   >Pentagon to seek. Moreover, NATO’s expanding involvement in the war — and   
   >potentially, NATO’s expanding size — raise the ante for Putin, vastly   
   >increasing the chances of a nuclear conflagration. Even before Russia’s   
   >invasion of Ukraine, experts deemed the world to be “the closest it has   
   >ever been to civilization-ending apocalypse.”   
   >   
   >President Biden himself seems to understand the need to avoid pushing   
   >Putin into a corner. “The problem I worry about now,”he told a gathering   
   >of Democrats, “is that he doesn’t have a way out right now, and I’m   
   trying   
   >to figure out what we do about that.”Yet imposing debilitating economic   
   >sanctions, calling Putin a “war criminal,” and prematurely announcing U.S.   
   >support for NATO membership for Sweden and Finland only narrow Putin’s   
   >options and make Russia increasingly likely to use nuclear weapons in   
   >Ukraine.   
      
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