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   David Dalton to o'Mahoney   
   Re: Vision   
   13 Jan 23 01:03:25   
   
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   From: David Dalton    
   Newsgroups: alt.dreams.castaneda,alt.philosophy.taoism,alt.buddha.short.fat.   
     guy,alt.religion.shamanism,alt.religion.druid,alt.religion.angels   
   Subject: Re: Vision   
   Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2023 01:03:25 -0330   
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   From: dalton@nfld.com   
      
   In article ,   
    o'Mahoney  wrote:   
      
   > My friend, if you want to toss around words like "soul" you should   
   > really first explain what the word means.   
      
      
      
   > Now, to talk blithely about "soul" is not the same as empirically   
   > proving all aspects of quantum physics to the extent that it is the   
   > backbone of our 21st century world (tv's, computers, etc etc).  What   
   > do you mean by the word "soul"?  There's no proof it exists, wishful   
   > thinking doesn't cut it in our modern world, there are no experiments   
   > (apart from some people weighing living & then dead people & noticing   
   > a small difference, of no consequence) & apart from religion, which is   
   > a curse on humanity, there is no use for the term. Morality yes,   
   > ethics yes, conscience yes, empathy yes - all these & more are useful   
   > & real - but what is this thing "soul" you toss around easily?   
   >   
   > I'm not saying it doesn't exist - you know, more things in heaven &   
   > earth Horatio etc etc.  But I am saying there is no proof & not even   
   > experiments rigor or not.   
      
   I talk about soul fragment retrieval and soul alignment so   
   should address this point.   
      
   There are several possible definitions of soul:   
      
   1. the part of the self that survives death,   
      
   2. the part of the self outside its three-dimensional intersection,   
      
   3. something I can sense and manipulate and call soul.   
      
   Now I think from my soul alignments that two someones   
   can have the same soul but different consciousnesses,   
   and that both soul and consciousness survive death,   
   so that rules out number one above.   
      
   Also from my soul alignments soul has a 3D intersection   
   which rules out number two above.   
      
   So for now I am sticking with number three above,   
   pending further research, possibly relating chi   
   and soul, where I think chi is a continuous field   
   and soul may be discrete packets within it.   
      
   It may help to eventually subject me to a FMRI   
   while I am doing soul manipulation.   
      
   Right now I am reading just alt.religion.druid   
   but will check the other groups on Tuesday   
   if not before.   
      
   --   
   David Dalton dalton@nfld.com https://www.nfld.com/~dalton (home page)   
   https://www.nfld.com/~dalton/dtales.html Salmon on the Thorns (mystic page)   
   "And now the angry morning; Gives the early signs of warning; You must face   
   alone the plans you make; Decisions they will try to break" (S. McLachlan)   
      
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