From: libertidad@south.south.com   
      
   On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 20:23:01 -0000, slider    
   wrote:   
      
   >On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 02:12:46 -0000, o'Mahoney    
   >wrote:   
   >   
   >> Brian, m'boy, I like Rishi Sunak, he's sending Challenger tanks to   
   >> Ukraine.  Poland is sending Leopards as well.   
   >>   
   >> Bit of a game changer, that.  Not that Ukraine needs them, it's doing   
   >> fine on its own :)   
   >   
   >### - tanks on their own wont do much, so it's only a game changer in the   
   >sense that it marks yet another escalation/upshift of increasingly   
   >heavy/offensive weapons supplied to ukraine...   
      
   That's nonsense.  Leopard 2 tanks are the best in the world,   
   completely outclassing whatever the Russians can bring to the game,   
   and there are thousands of them scattered through Europe.  When these   
   are unleashed, and they will be, the Russians will lose even more   
   ground.  Russia is on the back foot, it has lost immense amounts of   
   territory & only holds a few cities & Crimea.  The tanks will be a   
   game changer.  You are, again, wrong.   
      
   Europe realizes Putin will not stop at Ukraine if he wins therefore   
   supplies of heavy equipment are increasing all the time.  Germany's   
   stupid incompetent Defence Minister just resigned - put your pointy   
   cap on, why do you think & what will that matter?  C'mon now, think   
   hard :)   
      
   Around 1250 Abrams & Bradleys have just arrived in Poland.  Where do   
   you think they're going.   
      
   Every city in the US, Europe & elsewhere in the West is targeted by   
   thermonuclear warheads from Russia.  Now is the perfect time to use a   
   fierce proxy - Ukraine - with Western high tech weapons - Abrams,   
   Bradleys, Patriots, ATCMs, more HIMARS, GPS guided penetrators,   
   cruises, Apaches etc - to beat the criminal bastards without resort to   
   NUCDETs.  And, Brian, that is precisely what is happening.   
      
   >   
   >thus the war is still slowly getting worse/escalating by degrees and we   
   >don't know if/when a tipping point will be reached or what that tipping   
   >point will be...   
      
   What fucking tipping point?  You've been bleating about that every   
   since you bet me about 4 years ago that Iran would invade the ME &   
   attack Israel within 6 months ($50, you fucking welcher).   
      
   You're so full of shit sometimes it must backup to your molars.   
   Therer's no tipping point & when you use that term, you don't   
   elaborate, you don't DEFINE - you just toss words around like confetti   
   in a random, meaningless way, hoping some will hit some sort of   
   undefined target.   
      
   Answer this - WHAT tipping point?  Define it.   
      
   >   
   >iow, nada's changed: a clash of the titans (nato Vs. russia) is still on   
   >the cards, tanks just bringing it all one step closer.   
      
   It's already NATO weapons -v- Russian trash weapons.  You talking   
   about a direct clash?  Is that what you mean?  Why not say it?  Why   
   all these allusions, metaphors, subtleties etc?  Just say - NATO will   
   attack Russia, or Russsia will attack NATO.  Say what you fucking   
   mean, yeah?   
      
   If that's what you mean, it will not happen.  It hasn't happened since   
   1949 when NATO was founded, that's 74 fucking years ago - why should   
   it happen now?  Russia provided weapons to Vietnam & Korea, it never   
   happened then.  The US provided weapons to Afgahnistan, it never   
   happened then.  It will NOT happen, Putin is not suicidal nor is   
   Europe or the US.   
      
   Tell me why you think it will happen, use reason & logic, make your   
   mind WORK.   
      
   >   
   >(sounds/seems like you're looking forward to it now huh + trust you to go   
   >the wrong way heh)   
      
   I have no idea what you're talking about.   
      
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