From: slider@anashram.com   
      
   On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:21:04 +0100, LowRider44M    
   wrote:   
      
   > I rewatch Friston to try to gain insight.   
   > But fundamentally agree that AI can never achieve   
   > consciousness because eqo-reflections would tell   
   > it "Your going to die!!!" A morose, melancholy AI   
   > would make a lousy super conscious being.   
      
      
   ### - this above convo' just came-back/repeated to me again (happens like   
   that sometimes on important points, and as such is occasionally correct...)   
      
   i.e., was 'actually' suggesting that AI achieving consciousness IS fairly   
   likely?   
      
   but will likely only come about when programmers like our friend here   
   realise that some kinda element of 'self-reflection' is required in order   
   to do so... iow: a machine learning system that emulates virtually the   
   exact same manner in which humans self-reflect to a higher degree, the   
   same system that eventually produces the illusion of there being an 'i'   
   and an 'am' and/or a sense of 'separated' self around age 9...   
      
   and matey here appears to be working along just those very same lines...   
      
   dunno about 'depressed/morose' systems though (laughing) coz, if anything,   
   they'd prolly be able to handle it far better than we humans do... maybe   
   like Data in the start-truck series?   
      
   i.e., he can never be quite 'as-human' (as fucked up iow haha) as we   
   humans are because emotions are anathema (or mystery) to him, yet he's   
   defo self-aware?   
      
   whether such machines could ever genuinely get-hold of emotions too, is   
   debatable however ;)   
      
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