From: slider@anashram.com   
      
   >  "ya ate the steak ya have to pay!"   
   >  --judge judy   
      
   ### - well here we go then, israel's going all-in...   
      
   the question being: will the rest of the arab/muslim world just stand by   
   and do nada, or will they start pitching-in as hammas obviously hoped   
   they'd be forced to when israel went ape on gaza like never before?   
      
   so far, at any rate, there's only been token responses from them; a few   
   shots across the Lebanese border & those missiles from yemen for instance,   
   but whether that restraint continues as things get horrible in gaza begs   
   the question... there's certainly a lot of support for the palistinians   
   (huge protest marches again today in central london for example) but the   
   jews are hopping-mad and ain't gonna stop now!   
      
   this latest whole palistinian effort obviously being to force the rest of   
   the world to finally intervene and sort this problem out once and for all   
   (e.g., via a 2-state solution) only that's not at all what israel   
   ultimately wants: which is for the palistinians to just be gone and ALL   
   that land to become part of the state of israel, then from israel's pov   
   the problem's solved...   
      
   the palistinians, however, understandably want something of their own,   
   having been evicted from their lands in 1948 that's all they've been   
   thinking about and fighting for ever since, generations now of which know   
   nothing else except the ensuing struggles/horrors involved, it's ALL they   
   know??   
      
   arriving at an actual 'solution' then is very difficult indeed, and after   
   pondering this for quite a while am beginning to think that the only   
   'real' + 'lasting' solution would be if the whole arab world opened wide   
   its doors and invited those 2.3 million palistinians to instead come and   
   make a life with them in various places/nations of their choice, with good   
   help & support given to them to settle in those new places, homes and jobs   
   + a genuine chance to make a life for themselves...   
      
   this generation of palistinians are always gonna be damaged/hurt you   
   understand, the generational shit they've been through will/can never be   
   forgotten, but their children will be less damaged, and the generation   
   after that less damaged still until it's all just a bad memory, a dark   
   history, but where everything's been ok now for 60 years...   
      
    from israel's pov, all that land then becomes part of the state of israel   
   so the whole struggle/worry is over, their neighbours may well still bear   
   a grudge for quite a while to come, but with no constant provocations   
   against the muslim world for a couple of generations, peace would slowly   
   become the norm that no one then wants (or needs) to break!   
      
   and it's only 2.3 million people, which would have little effect on the   
   rest of the whole middle east absorbing them, it could work!   
      
   can't think of anything else that would 'actually' work long-term, i   
   mean...   
      
   chances of them all doing summat 'sane' like that though is minimal,   
   everyone's too completely obsessed with chanting: me me me me me me me me!   
   to ever consider anything other than themselves and what 'they' want...   
      
   and what everyone wants at the moment, is blood!   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)