From: theBeach@cairo.ankh.io   
      
   On Sat, 23 Dec 2023 23:25:40 -0000, slider    
   wrote:   
      
   >### - gave this reply to a comment in the WILDs & WILDing group today   
   >heh...   
   >   
   >which, thinkin' about it, could even make quite a good book :)   
   >   
   >   
   >Robert Wu wrote:   
   >I heard Shamans use specific herbs to get lucid dreams. But your wilding   
   >tech does not need any supplement.   
   >   
   >to which yours truly replied:   
   >shamans and medicine men down the ages have all apparently used similar or   
   >even completely different techniques to contact their 'spirit world' for   
   >advice/healing or whatever (this being perhaps the way they originally +   
   >personally discovered its existence) and although they may have arrived   
   >there by different means (often jungle drugs/potions etc, harsh ordeals,   
   >or even pain) the results are just about the same: they found different   
   >(often brutal) ways to WILD...   
   >   
   >Mainly because that's what exists to BE found however they managed to   
   >discover it, it taking 1000's of years for humanity to finally also   
   >discover that none of those props are required and that we can instead go   
   >directly into it without any of the frills & difficulties we've come to   
   >expect, and because ultimately that whole side of our nature is part and   
   >parcel of our very being, a part that's been lost to us for countless   
   >generations, until only bad memories, myths & legends remain of who and   
   >what we all really are and once were...   
   >   
   >That if all that's true, it implies that something happened to humanity a   
   >very long time ago, some catastrophe or another that destroyed everything   
   >we knew before, except how to materially live hand-to-mouth in an effort   
   >just to survive, our civilisation today being the result of that struggle   
   >to survive...   
   >   
   >otoh, that might not be completely correct and only now is humanity   
   >finally evolving to the point where we're actually starting to understand   
   >all these things in a completely new light, something totally different to   
   >magic, mysticism and superstition to explain it all...   
   >   
   >Merry xmas folks ;)   
   >   
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   >   
   >     You’ll love learning to lucid dream The WILD Way.   
   >It’s very easy to do and it will change your life forever!   
   >   
   >    This literally IS the stuff that ‘Dreams Are Made Of’   
   >   
   >               https://www.thewildway.com/   
      
      
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