From: slider@anashram.com   
      
   On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 11:01:15 +0100, He Who Sees All   
    wrote:   
      
   > On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 03:36:02 +0100, slider    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 20:40:47 +0100, Idol Eyes  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 04/06/2024 13:50, He Who Sees All wrote:   
   >>>> On Tue, 04 Jun 2024 10:29:55 +0100, slider    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Sun, 02 Jun 2024 07:21:17 +0100, He Who Sees All   
   >>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> On Sat, 01 Jun 2024 01:08:35 +0100, slider    
   >>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2024 06:57:57 +0100, He Who Sees All   
   >>>>>>>  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> On Tue, 28 May 2024 20:38:46 +0300, Idol Eyes    
   >>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On 18/05/2024 12:43, He Who Sees All wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> Slider, you still kickin'?   
   >>>>>>>>>> Anyone dead yet?   
   >>>>>>>>>> Heart still pulsing here...   
   >>>>>>>>>> What about Dave & Chris, still vertical?   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> Now when those old farts gone we can finally talk   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> They've left because after Google pulled out, they think they   
   >>>>>>>> would   
   >>>>>>>> need to spend a few bucks on a usenet account (they're basically   
   >>>>>>>> too   
   >>>>>>>> ossified to understand that there are a few text only free   
   >>>>>>>> accounts   
   >>>>>>>> extant such as eternal september which allow posting).   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It's a wonder they survive.  Slider at least post with september,   
   >>>>>>>> I   
   >>>>>>>> use them too along with a few paid accounts.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> So, whaddya wanna talk about?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> ### - how's about we talk about your new... teeth?   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Singular.  It's "tooth".  Had an implant left mandible, molar.  The   
   >>>>>> implant was in two stages - titanium screw with post, then after 3   
   >>>>>> months of healing (there was a bone graft due to age etc), the crown   
   >>>>>> was made and screwed on.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Total cost was almost $6K of which my private health insurer   
   >>>>>> refunded   
   >>>>>> me $3k - the "hardware" is non refundable for some reason.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Soon, I'll have a treatment plan for another implant, again in the   
   >>>>>> mandible but on the right side.  It will replace a gold molar crown   
   >>>>>> which has gone rotten in the roots.  As I have a gold crown in the   
   >>>>>> jaw   
   >>>>>> opposing the mandible crown, I want this implant to be gold.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> That's it then for teeth.  I'll have enough to chew well with and   
   >>>>>> they   
   >>>>>> don't look too bad given 50 years of smoking, drinking and so on...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> ### - ah am only pullin' yer pisser mate haha...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> teeth? fucking things, why couldn't we have had teeth like sharks do?   
   >>>>> not   
   >>>>> sharp or pointy so much as on a conveyor belt so when one falls out   
   >>>>> it's   
   >>>>> replaced by another from the back, for a whole lifetime!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> human teeth, however, are clearly not designed to last much beyond   
   >>>>> age   
   >>>>> 50   
   >>>>> or 60, and only last 'that' long because we patch them up/have   
   >>>>> implants   
   >>>>> etc, duh...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> did see some recent research though re the possibility of using stem   
   >>>>> cells   
   >>>>> to grow replacement teeth, effectively a third set that would grow-in   
   >>>>> naturally wherever needed, just remove the old/broken one, implant   
   >>>>> the   
   >>>>> stem cells, and 3 months later tada ya gots a brand new tooth   
   >>>>> identical to   
   >>>>> the old one!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> of course, they'll prolly charge ya 10-times as much for one of those   
   >>>>> implants lol, at least until such treatments became standard   
   >>>>> practice,   
   >>>>> meanwhile big filling, crowns and root canal work would all become a   
   >>>>> thing   
   >>>>> of the past, and i'd certainly applaud that...   
   >>>>  I couldn't agree more with everything you said.  I was born and lived   
   >>>> for a good while where & when fluoride was a non-starter.  Then, when   
   >>>> it did start, the conspiracy theorists talked all sorts of nonsense   
   >>>> about it and there was significant political risk involved.  So,   
   >>>> youngsters' teeth rotted and by the time I was in my 30's, practically   
   >>>> every tooth I had was filled.  Now, there are a lot absent but I still   
   >>>> have enough to chew with and as I look down the barrel of my 70th   
   >>>> year, I have healthy gums which means the teeth are easier to save.   
   >>>>  One more implant, and that's it.  I heard that the trials are   
   >>>> starting   
   >>>> right now to grow new teeth and if successful, by mid-2030's it will   
   >>>> be available as a treatment.  By then, I'll be either so old I won't   
   >>>> give a fuck or I'll (likely) be dead.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>> you wore the last fuckers out biting & chomping on everyone around   
   >>>>>>> you   
   >>>>>>> huh   
   >>>>>>> :D   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> he might not have any teeth left folks but be careful, he can still   
   >>>>>>> give a   
   >>>>>>> very nasty suck!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Got plenty of teeth mate.  Probably a lot more than you, seeing as   
   >>>>>> you   
   >>>>>> live in relative poverty.  I don't think your NHS over there in   
   >>>>>> blighty covers teeth...and you won't have private health, that's for   
   >>>>>> sure :)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> ### - they were fairly good until about 10 years ago, then lost 3 big   
   >>>>> ones   
   >>>>> in succession, had various root canals and replacement fillings over   
   >>>>> the   
   >>>>> next few years, but one by one they're slowly failing/having   
   >>>>> problems,   
   >>>>> the   
   >>>>> next 10 years not looking particularly rosy for those remaining, the   
   >>>>> whole   
   >>>>> thing being a damned nuisance really, fucking things hehe...   
   >>>>  Yep had the works here too.  One of my biggest regrets is not having   
   >>>> looked after my teeth more.  But the coffee, alcohol, nicotine stains   
   >>>> would still make them look as old as they are even if I had looked   
   >>>> after them.  Ah, well...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>> (in olden times when you wore out your teeth they just put you out   
   >>>>>>> on   
   >>>>>>> the   
   >>>>>>> ice haha ;)   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Nope.  They introduced you to those grannies who could suck eggs   
   >>>>>> with   
   >>>>>> their hardened gums.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> A bit like you in some ways, lol.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> ### - (laughing) nah, i'll volunteer for the ice-treatment beyond a   
   >>>>> certain point, there's only so much shit am prepared to put up with   
   >>>>> and   
   >>>>> hanging around waiting to die in some dreary nursing home dependent   
   >>>>> upon   
   >>>>> others to help me keep my arse clean, is definitely NOT gonna be it   
   >>>>> lol...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> fuck that...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> i'd rather die on the hoof so to speak ;)   
   >>   
   >>>>  Well, if I develop any form of dementia, it's goodbye charlie, even   
   >>>> if   
   >>>> it is illegal here (assisted suicide, that is).  I'll take the pills   
      
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